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All Eyes on Florida's Pro Day (3/17)

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
I'm all for drafting Haden. It would be a steal for the Niners.

No it wouldn't!!

First of all, CB isn't even that great of a need: OT, OG, OLB, S are all greater needs. Would he start ahead of Clements? No. Would he start ahead of Spencer? No. We'd be spending a 1st round pick on a nickle back.

Secondly, he's not even that good.

I swear to God, if we spend our 1st pick on Haden, I'm going to punch an infant.


When the last bowl game was played it was a consensus that Haden was the best CB in this draft but you say he is not that good ?

Those who think that IMHO are just trying to find something to knock him so as to put together a case for not taking him. The kid is still the best corner in this class and if he could unseat Brown as the nickel in his rookie year that would mean we'd be rolling f'n deep at corner and like pass rushers, you can never have too many good corners.

Just because he's the best CB in the draft doesn't mean he's a can't-miss prospect. Kyle Wilson is better anyways.

Drafting Haden would be a f**king travesty.

If Haden is not that good but is the best corner in this class then that would make Kyle Wilson even farther from being that good.

Well that's where we disagree: I think Wilson is the best corner in the draft.

And I wouldn't take him at #13 either.

Haden far outplayed Wilson on film last year. Wilson is a great prospect but doesn't have the same potential as Haden does.

Do you have this film?

Watch the games he played in. I watched a lot of Florida this year as I do every year because they are always loaded with talent and can be quite exciting to watch. I also saw enough of Boise to know Wilson is a late 1st round prospect and very good, he is on par with McCourty whereas Haden is a cut above both.

I have a hard time leaving my couch on Saturday's.

There are also places on the web that you can download Florida games.

I also prefer Wilson over Haden because he can return punts and kicks, thus filling 2 needs at once.
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Originally posted by foreign49er:
I think the Jags will take him in the 1st. If they don't, somebody will take him in the 2nd and they literally can't afford to let that happen.

I can see the Jags also taking the gamble on Dez Bryant. They need a legit #1 receiver. Ideal scenario IMHO for Jacksonville would be to trade down as they have no 2nd rounder and could also use more pass rush help besides Kampman.
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Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
I'm all for drafting Haden. It would be a steal for the Niners.

No it wouldn't!!

First of all, CB isn't even that great of a need: OT, OG, OLB, S are all greater needs. Would he start ahead of Clements? No. Would he start ahead of Spencer? No. We'd be spending a 1st round pick on a nickle back.

Secondly, he's not even that good.

I swear to God, if we spend our 1st pick on Haden, I'm going to punch an infant.


When the last bowl game was played it was a consensus that Haden was the best CB in this draft but you say he is not that good ?

Those who think that IMHO are just trying to find something to knock him so as to put together a case for not taking him. The kid is still the best corner in this class and if he could unseat Brown as the nickel in his rookie year that would mean we'd be rolling f'n deep at corner and like pass rushers, you can never have too many good corners.

Just because he's the best CB in the draft doesn't mean he's a can't-miss prospect. Kyle Wilson is better anyways.

Drafting Haden would be a f**king travesty.

If Haden is not that good but is the best corner in this class then that would make Kyle Wilson even farther from being that good.

Well that's where we disagree: I think Wilson is the best corner in the draft.

And I wouldn't take him at #13 either.

Haden far outplayed Wilson on film last year. Wilson is a great prospect but doesn't have the same potential as Haden does.

Do you have this film?

Watch the games he played in. I watched a lot of Florida this year as I do every year because they are always loaded with talent and can be quite exciting to watch. I also saw enough of Boise to know Wilson is a late 1st round prospect and very good, he is on par with McCourty whereas Haden is a cut above both.

I have a hard time leaving my couch on Saturday's.

There are also places on the web that you can download Florida games.

I also prefer Wilson over Haden because he can return punts and kicks, thus filling 2 needs at once.

That is one thing that bodes well for him because Scot tends to like versatility. However we would need to trade down in the 1st or up with our 2nd. McCourty also brings that to the table.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Tebow is impressing scouts with his throws.

who do you think takes him.

I think he goes in the 2nd round and I say jacksonville

I also doubt he gets selected in the 1st unless he absolutely explodes today and shows how comfortable he is running a pro style offense. The Bills and Jags both would have interest in the 2nd round for sure. But don't rule out the Patriots in the 2nd who have multiple picks in that round. Belichek and Urban Meyer are close friends and Im sure he would find a way to use Tebow.

The Jags are in a bind considering they have no 2nd rounder.

Oh s**t I didnt even realize that. Looks like they'll be looking long and hard at trading down to get more picks.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by foreign49er:
I think the Jags will take him in the 1st. If they don't, somebody will take him in the 2nd and they literally can't afford to let that happen.

I can see the Jags also taking the gamble on Dez Bryant. They need a legit #1 receiver. Ideal scenario IMHO for Jacksonville would be to trade down as they have no 2nd rounder and could also use more pass rush help besides Kampman.

That would make a lot of sense, this draft has a lot of quality in the 2nd round. Grab Graham in the 1st and Tebow in the 2nd, they'd love that.
Originally posted by foreign49er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by foreign49er:
I think the Jags will take him in the 1st. If they don't, somebody will take him in the 2nd and they literally can't afford to let that happen.

I can see the Jags also taking the gamble on Dez Bryant. They need a legit #1 receiver. Ideal scenario IMHO for Jacksonville would be to trade down as they have no 2nd rounder and could also use more pass rush help besides Kampman.

That would make a lot of sense, this draft has a lot of quality in the 2nd round. Grab Graham in the 1st and Tebow in the 2nd, they'd love that.

They don't have a 2nd round pick
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by foreign49er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by foreign49er:
I think the Jags will take him in the 1st. If they don't, somebody will take him in the 2nd and they literally can't afford to let that happen.

I can see the Jags also taking the gamble on Dez Bryant. They need a legit #1 receiver. Ideal scenario IMHO for Jacksonville would be to trade down as they have no 2nd rounder and could also use more pass rush help besides Kampman.

That would make a lot of sense, this draft has a lot of quality in the 2nd round. Grab Graham in the 1st and Tebow in the 2nd, they'd love that.

They don't have a 2nd round pick

Hence the trading down......
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Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.
Originally posted by foreign49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by foreign49er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by foreign49er:
I think the Jags will take him in the 1st. If they don't, somebody will take him in the 2nd and they literally can't afford to let that happen.

I can see the Jags also taking the gamble on Dez Bryant. They need a legit #1 receiver. Ideal scenario IMHO for Jacksonville would be to trade down as they have no 2nd rounder and could also use more pass rush help besides Kampman.

That would make a lot of sense, this draft has a lot of quality in the 2nd round. Grab Graham in the 1st and Tebow in the 2nd, they'd love that.

They don't have a 2nd round pick

Hence the trading down......
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by northshore:
Dam Haden!! Why did you have to run so fast... Now there is no way he falls to us. All you haters just put on his game tape, grab some popcorn and watch him shut down the best WR's the SEC has to offer, which are some of the best wr propsects in the nation.

The SEC has some of the worst WRs in the nation, the entire conference sucks at passing. Julio Jones gets a lot of hype, but he hasn't really shown me much, who else is any good in that conference? I've been saying from day 1 Haden is overrated because he hasn't had to cover anyone any good, and the QBs in the SEC aren't any good as far as pure passers go.

I don't follow College football all that closely, in your opinion who's the best Corner in the draft? What other corners consistently face top-tier WR?
Ouestion for the draft gurus....if Haden goes top 10 does he go to team who otherwise would have drafted OT?
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Tebow is a 7th rounder I don't see all the hype for him.
[ Edited by mayo63 on Mar 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo63:
Tebow is a 7th rounder I don't see all the hype for him.

This is a biased opinion.
Originally posted by ishkabibel:
Ouestion for the draft gurus....if Haden goes top 10 does he go to team who otherwise would have drafted OT?

The top candidate are the browns who wouldn't have taken an OT.
Originally posted by stever:
Originally posted by ishkabibel:
Ouestion for the draft gurus....if Haden goes top 10 does he go to team who otherwise would have drafted OT?

The top candidate are the browns who wouldn't have taken an OT.

I would say they take Berry....if he's gone Dez before Haden.