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Mar 14, 2010 at 11:31 PM
- noobie
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I agree I thought a 4th was reasonable. I'm just saying browns got nothing for him.
Mar 15, 2010 at 12:35 AM
- 4ML
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Niners are lookin' for a trade down. Will wait for few minutes before making my pick.
Mar 15, 2010 at 1:59 AM
- 4ML
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Really wanted to trade down, but with all the top OTs gone, Spiller makes the most sense.
Mar 15, 2010 at 6:50 AM
- DynastyPart2
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Offering a trade with the 49ers (49ersmylife).
If he accepts, he will post it to this thread and PM AB for approval. I would like the board to give their opinion before accepting this trade.
If he accepts, he will post it to this thread and PM AB for approval. I would like the board to give their opinion before accepting this trade.
Mar 15, 2010 at 6:54 AM
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Trade offer accepted by 49ers and Vikings - waiting for approval
49ers trade #13 and 5th round pick
Vikings trade #30, #62, and next years 1st.
To help with approval process: (by dynasty) Going from the points board, the 49ers have 1150 points (#13) and the Vikings have 620 points (#30). Their second rounder is only 284 points (#62). Their 1st rounder next year would be valued at half, so let's call it 310. If the 49ers throw in their 5th round pick, that is around 35 points.
Altogether that is:
49ers: 1,185
Vikings: 1,214
49ers trade #13 and 5th round pick
Vikings trade #30, #62, and next years 1st.
To help with approval process: (by dynasty) Going from the points board, the 49ers have 1150 points (#13) and the Vikings have 620 points (#30). Their second rounder is only 284 points (#62). Their 1st rounder next year would be valued at half, so let's call it 310. If the 49ers throw in their 5th round pick, that is around 35 points.
Altogether that is:
49ers: 1,185
Vikings: 1,214
Mar 15, 2010 at 6:57 AM
- 4ML
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trade details sent to AB for approval. I'm gonna head out to the gym. Hopefully the trade goes through and we can get this thing rolling now since it's Monday.
Mar 15, 2010 at 7:51 AM
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I don't understand this trade at all on the Vikings standpoint. Why in the world are they giving up 2 1st's and a 2nd for the 13th pick and a 5th rounder? Maybe it adds up point wise but logically thinking it makes no sense.
Mar 15, 2010 at 8:08 AM
- Paul_Hofer
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Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't understand this trade at all on the Vikings standpoint. Why in the world are they giving up 2 1st's and a 2nd for the 13th pick and a 5th rounder? Maybe it adds up point wise but logically thinking it makes no sense.
This doesn't seem useful for the Niners either. At least not this year.
We'd lower a first round pick and gain only a third rounder this year. The Niners needs starters, and higher round picks usually are the source for starters. Another trade up above #49 while keeping #49 would have to be arranged to make the original trade attractive, IMO.
Mar 15, 2010 at 8:34 AM
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't understand this trade at all on the Vikings standpoint. Why in the world are they giving up 2 1st's and a 2nd for the 13th pick and a 5th rounder? Maybe it adds up point wise but logically thinking it makes no sense.
This doesn't seem useful for the Niners either. At least not this year.
We'd lower a first round pick and gain only a third rounder this year. The Niners needs starters, and higher round picks usually are the source for starters. Another trade up above #49 while keeping #49 would have to be arranged to make the original trade attractive, IMO.
Very true
sidenote I think there is a 0 chance the Raiders select Campbell. it's just too much of a joke for them to do that.
Mar 15, 2010 at 9:36 AM
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Trade offer accepted by 49ers and Vikings - waiting for approval
49ers trade #13 and 5th round pick
Vikings trade #30, #62, and next years 1st.
To help with approval process: (by dynasty) Going from the points board, the 49ers have 1150 points (#13) and the Vikings have 620 points (#30). Their second rounder is only 284 points (#62). Their 1st rounder next year would be valued at half, so let's call it 310. If the 49ers throw in their 5th round pick, that is around 35 points.
Altogether that is:
49ers: 1,185
Vikings: 1,214
I would say that there is VERY little chance that the Vikes would ever make that trade.
Mar 15, 2010 at 10:08 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Trade offer accepted by 49ers and Vikings - waiting for approval
49ers trade #13 and 5th round pick
Vikings trade #30, #62, and next years 1st.
To help with approval process: (by dynasty) Going from the points board, the 49ers have 1150 points (#13) and the Vikings have 620 points (#30). Their second rounder is only 284 points (#62). Their 1st rounder next year would be valued at half, so let's call it 310. If the 49ers throw in their 5th round pick, that is around 35 points.
Altogether that is:
49ers: 1,185
Vikings: 1,214
I would say that there is VERY little chance that the Vikes would ever make that trade.
Same here.
Mar 15, 2010 at 10:24 AM
- Paul_Hofer
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Another trade perhaps (assuming no OT in R1, e.g., Spiller/Haden/Graham and Iupati):
Trade the Niners' 2010 2nd and 4th round selections and David Baas. This could move the Niners 2nd round pick to at least the top of R2. Select Saffold, Ducasse, or Charles Brown.
Trade the Niners' 2010 2nd and 4th round selections and David Baas. This could move the Niners 2nd round pick to at least the top of R2. Select Saffold, Ducasse, or Charles Brown.
Mar 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM
- AB81Rules
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Trade approved.
I might not worry about approval's so this goes faster.
I might not worry about approval's so this goes faster.
Mar 15, 2010 at 10:43 AM
- AB81Rules
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I actually wouldnt be surprised or opposed of this trade.
Minnesota would be targeting Clausen, and we get a extra 2nd and the 1st in 2011 is a plus.
You never know how much Vikes rate Clausen.
Minnesota would be targeting Clausen, and we get a extra 2nd and the 1st in 2011 is a plus.
You never know how much Vikes rate Clausen.
Mar 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I actually wouldnt be surprised or opposed of this trade.
Minnesota would be targeting Clausen, and we get a extra 2nd and the 1st in 2011 is a plus.
You never know how much Vikes rate Clausen.
True, but the Vikes are on the verge of a Super Bowl, not in rebuilding mode and in need of a young QB to the point where they would give up their 1st rounder next year to move from the bottom of the first all the way to the middle.
Throw in the Favre factor (very likely to be coming back for one last run), and it just doesn't add up from a logic/reality standpoint.
That said, anything could happen.