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CB Perrish Cox, Oklahoma St.

Originally posted by jreff22:
Interesting Mayock doesn't have him in his top 5 CB's............

mayock is bs has mccoy over suh and earl thomas over berry just ignore his rankings but his anyalsis are usually pretty good
I copied this from my recent mock draft...

Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
For the most part, I like the draft (not crazy about Perrish Cox from a character/dedication standpoint)...swap out Darren Sproles for Willie Parker (serious injury concerns) and I'm completely behind it.

What kind of character issues does Cox have?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4435851

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-states-perrish-cox-suspended-from-cotton-bowl/article/3429185

http://newsok.com/perrish-cox-drops-the-ball-again/article/3442978?custom_click=lead_story_title

Whoa suspended license thing doesn't bother me but breaking curfew to party instead of being there for your teamates isn't the best thing in the world. and he should've expected to be harassed on the subject. It's obvious that teams want to know if you are dedicated to the team or the money you bout to make.

Its risk vs. reward. I'd still take him! Like the one article says:

Quote:

"You’re going against the grain,” Gil Brandt said of trying to convince NFL personnel to overlook transgressions.

Brandt, the Dallas Cowboys’ scouting director in the Tom Landry days and now chief draft analyst for nfl.com, said Cox is a "talented player. But people now have taken the attitude, they’d rather have a 70 percent dependable player than a 100 percent undependable player.

"It’s unfortunate. I don’t think he’s going to go as high as had he not had those two late nights out in Dallas. When he does things like that, it costs him money.”

Cox has first-round talent; he’s a very good cornerback with big-play ability returning kicks. First-round talent and 20th-round common sense.


[ Edited by PTulini on Mar 2, 2010 at 15:36:50 ]
Originally posted by PTulini:
I copied this from my recent mock draft...

Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
For the most part, I like the draft (not crazy about Perrish Cox from a character/dedication standpoint)...swap out Darren Sproles for Willie Parker (serious injury concerns) and I'm completely behind it.

What kind of character issues does Cox have?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4435851

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-states-perrish-cox-suspended-from-cotton-bowl/article/3429185

http://newsok.com/perrish-cox-drops-the-ball-again/article/3442978?custom_click=lead_story_title

Whoa suspended license thing doesn't bother me but breaking curfew to party instead of being there for your teamates isn't the best thing in the world. and he should've expected to be harassed on the subject. It's obvious that teams want to know if you are dedicated to the team or the money you bout to make.

Its risk vs. reward. I'd still take him! Like the one article says:

Quote:

"You’re going against the grain,” Gil Brandt said of trying to convince NFL personnel to overlook transgressions.

Brandt, the Dallas Cowboys’ scouting director in the Tom Landry days and now chief draft analyst for nfl.com, said Cox is a "talented player. But people now have taken the attitude, they’d rather have a 70 percent dependable player than a 100 percent undependable player.

"It’s unfortunate. I don’t think he’s going to go as high as had he not had those two late nights out in Dallas. When he does things like that, it costs him money.”

Cox has first-round talent; he’s a very good cornerback with big-play ability returning kicks. First-round talent and 20th-round common sense.

Bro I bet Singletary could get his mind right. Take a chance on him.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by PTulini:
I copied this from my recent mock draft...

Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
For the most part, I like the draft (not crazy about Perrish Cox from a character/dedication standpoint)...swap out Darren Sproles for Willie Parker (serious injury concerns) and I'm completely behind it.

What kind of character issues does Cox have?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4435851

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-states-perrish-cox-suspended-from-cotton-bowl/article/3429185

http://newsok.com/perrish-cox-drops-the-ball-again/article/3442978?custom_click=lead_story_title

Whoa suspended license thing doesn't bother me but breaking curfew to party instead of being there for your teamates isn't the best thing in the world. and he should've expected to be harassed on the subject. It's obvious that teams want to know if you are dedicated to the team or the money you bout to make.

Its risk vs. reward. I'd still take him! Like the one article says:

Quote:

"You’re going against the grain,” Gil Brandt said of trying to convince NFL personnel to overlook transgressions.

Brandt, the Dallas Cowboys’ scouting director in the Tom Landry days and now chief draft analyst for nfl.com, said Cox is a "talented player. But people now have taken the attitude, they’d rather have a 70 percent dependable player than a 100 percent undependable player.

"It’s unfortunate. I don’t think he’s going to go as high as had he not had those two late nights out in Dallas. When he does things like that, it costs him money.”

Cox has first-round talent; he’s a very good cornerback with big-play ability returning kicks. First-round talent and 20th-round common sense.

Bro I bet Singletary could get his mind right. Take a chance on him.

That's what I'm saying... Risk/Reward.
Wouldn't be mad but I don't think he will be there in the 2nd when we pick.
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Surprised no one is talking about his slightly slower than expected 40. He was expected to be a mid 4.4 guy but he ran in the 4.5 range, coupled with his character concerns could drop him down some teams draft boards slightly.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Surprised no one is talking about his slightly slower than expected 40. He was expected to be a mid 4.4 guy but he ran in the 4.5 range, coupled with his character concerns could drop him down some teams draft boards slightly.

His pro day will be very important IMO.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Surprised no one is talking about his slightly slower than expected 40. He was expected to be a mid 4.4 guy but he ran in the 4.5 range, coupled with his character concerns could drop him down some teams draft boards slightly.

His pro day will be very important IMO.

Yes, and so will his background checks. Like Dez Bryant teams will really delve into their pasts and be trying to find out as much as they can about their characters.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Surprised no one is talking about his slightly slower than expected 40. He was expected to be a mid 4.4 guy but he ran in the 4.5 range, coupled with his character concerns could drop him down some teams draft boards slightly.

His pro day will be very important IMO.

Yes, and so will his background checks. Like Dez Bryant teams will really delve into their pasts and be trying to find out as much as they can about their characters.

I think teams have gone too far when they decide to take character over talent. I do understand why, but sometimes I just don't think its right. Look a how far Randy Moss fell when he was drafted in 1998 because of some off the field issues. Sometimes you can get a diamond in the rough!
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Surprised no one is talking about his slightly slower than expected 40. He was expected to be a mid 4.4 guy but he ran in the 4.5 range, coupled with his character concerns could drop him down some teams draft boards slightly.

His pro day will be very important IMO.

Yes, and so will his background checks. Like Dez Bryant teams will really delve into their pasts and be trying to find out as much as they can about their characters.

I think teams have gone too far when they decide to take character over talent. I do understand why, but sometimes I just don't think its right. Look a how far Randy Moss fell when he was drafted in 1998 because of some off the field issues. Sometimes you can get a diamond in the rough!

sometimes you can get a pacman jones
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Surprised no one is talking about his slightly slower than expected 40. He was expected to be a mid 4.4 guy but he ran in the 4.5 range, coupled with his character concerns could drop him down some teams draft boards slightly.

His pro day will be very important IMO.

Yes, and so will his background checks. Like Dez Bryant teams will really delve into their pasts and be trying to find out as much as they can about their characters.

I think teams have gone too far when they decide to take character over talent. I do understand why, but sometimes I just don't think its right. Look a how far Randy Moss fell when he was drafted in 1998 because of some off the field issues. Sometimes you can get a diamond in the rough!

sometimes you can get a pacman jones

to V-33. Excellent counter to a good point.
I'd like to think that Sing can keep a guy with some focus issues in line, much like Ahmad Brooks has come around under his watch.

Also, I don't think the mediocre 40 time matters too much since we're talking about Cox has a mid-2nd round possibility for us or even in the 3rd since there are a handful of good corners at the top of the draft this year.
The character issues aren't to big :
--He got suspended for a bowl game for missing the curfew twice (He was late with some teammates when they didn't have practices scheduled for the next day and he was out with his girlfriend on new years eve).
--He was arrested for driving with a suspended license

This is it. Not really a murderer ;)
Originally posted by stever:
The character issues aren't to big :
--He got suspended for a bowl game for missing the curfew twice (He was late with some teammates when they didn't have practices scheduled for the next day and he was out with his girlfriend on new years eve).
--He was arrested for driving with a suspended license

This is it. Not really a murderer ;)

I guy doesn't have to be a murderer to be a character risk. If a guy feels he can do what he wants when he wants and doesn't have to follow the rules like everyone else, it can become problematic. Teams that just dismiss this type of repeated behavior do so at their peril.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by stever:
The character issues aren't to big :
--He got suspended for a bowl game for missing the curfew twice (He was late with some teammates when they didn't have practices scheduled for the next day and he was out with his girlfriend on new years eve).
--He was arrested for driving with a suspended license

This is it. Not really a murderer ;)

I guy doesn't have to be a murderer to be a character risk. If a guy feels he can do what he wants when he wants and doesn't have to follow the rules like everyone else, it can become problematic. Teams that just dismiss this type of repeated behavior do so at their peril.

Now give this guy a ton of money and it can get worse