Originally posted by LilAzn9er:
I would not take a safety in the 1st round unless it's Berry. However, I'd rather have Thomas than Mays.
Agreed, just take Nate Allen in the 2nd.
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Originally posted by LilAzn9er:
I would not take a safety in the 1st round unless it's Berry. However, I'd rather have Thomas than Mays.
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Mayock has a really keen eye for talent. I value his analysis and opinion more than any other "draft guru".
That said.. I am now officially conflicted.. not sure what we should do with our 2nd first rounder. Assuming we grab an OT the other first could be Spiller, Iupati, Graham, Thomas, Haden...the list goes on and on,
I feel like a kid in a candy shop.
Originally posted by DesiDez:
You can mark it down:
McCloughan will NOT draft Earl Thomas in the 1st round. Scot loves size and Thomas's biggest flaw is height and lack of muscle mass. Look at our current roster: Frank Gore is our shortest player but he's at least a 220 lbs RB. Look at our starting secondary: Spencer, Clements, Goldson, Lewis (no one under 6 ft). Even though I think Thomas is a superior safety to Taylor Mays, Mays has a better shot of being drafted by the 49ers as ridiculous as that sounds.
I'll be surprised if Thomas is taller than 5-9. Can you imagine him trying to tackle Steven Jackson, Beanie Wells, Fitzgerald, or Boldin?
Originally posted by znk916:
I'll be stunned if we draft him.
Originally posted by ninertico:
As far as Thomas, I know Mayock was high on him, but the review wasn't all glowing. He excels in coverage and can roam the field very well and has recovery speed. It is his size. Would he be able to start at FS while moving Goldson to SS or would it take time?
I think that the "immediate" starter label needs to be discussed. Out of these players below, who could start now?
Haden?
McClain?
Spiller?
Davis?
Bulaga?
Iupati?
T. Williams?
Graham?
D. Williams?
Out of these I say Spiller, Bulaga, Davis, Iupati, and T. Williams, possibly Graham. The others, including Graham, it seems would have some serious competition at their spots.
That's why I am in with any combo of these three with our first two: Spiller/RT/Iupati. Can't go wrong with that.
Don't want Thomas at #16/17. This safety class is way to deep with much larger S who can play center field well, too. Value is the word of the day with Safeties, IMO.
Originally posted by 9erHIGH:Originally posted by KRS-1:
From an old Q&A with Scot :
Quote:
YOU MENTIONED YOUR PHILOSOPHYY ON PLAYERS, WHAT IS IT EXACTLY?:
I will give away a little on the height, weight and speed for a consistent player. I think it's important to be mentally and physically tough. You got to let them understand that it's a team game, not an individual game, that the only way we are going to be good is as a group.
look at those words carefully... e.thomas gives away A LOT on both height AND weight. many also question his toughness which is another "knock." he doesnt play like the also undersized b.sanders, that's for sure.
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Good for Mayock...problem is, we really don't need a S in the 1st round. We could use one of the top CB's, RB's, or DL, though. The one knock on Thomas is he's not much of a run-stopper...and that would be a must. Goldson came on well in the 2nd half of last season, so FS isn't really a big need. Michael Lewis is an effective run-stopper, but not so strong in pass defense. However, Coach has Reggie Smith and Curtis Taylor already...getting Thomas would be practically pointless.
Originally posted by GoldenGateFan:
Cough, cough ... the next Michael Huff.. cough.
I am just not that high on Earl Thomas. I know he has had an great year in college, but I feel like there is much better value later in the draft. Plus Earl is only a FS, meaning dashon must move to SS, which is not his natural position. Chad Jones in round 2, Darrell Stuckey & Reshad Jones in round 3 i like a lot better and are much better value, as well as all being true SS. my favorite is Reshad Jones, who can do a little bit of everything form run support in the box, to laying the wood on recievers, to jumping a reciever and picking it off. Ball skills, athleticism and good instincts make him an all around player.
Chad Jones has mad athleticism and is a quick learnerwith ball skills and, other than JPP has the most potential to grow. Finally Darrell Stuckey is one of the MOST UNDERRATED players in the draft. he would be a steal in round 3!