Originally posted by mayo63:
i would cream my pants if we got Iupati. Two OL with the first two picks would be a dream come true.
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Originally posted by mayo63:
i would cream my pants if we got Iupati. Two OL with the first two picks would be a dream come true.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by TX9R:Originally posted by doc_brown_:Originally posted by TX9R:Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
I also think OG is a greater need than OT.
I'd be happy with Iupati in the 1st and then an OT in the 2nd or 3rd. All the top tier OTs will most likely be gone by our picks anyways, no need to reach in the 1st round just to get an OT.
There is no greater need than RT. I think we'll address OG as well, hence the one year tender for Baas, but likely not in the first or even 2nd
Drafting a player with a day 2 pick doesn't mean that you've "addressed" your need. Yes you've addressed depth at that position, but it's not as if you automatically have the guy who will start for you for years to come. That's why I think you have to take a player with the highest upside at need positions.
I agree, but that doesn't mean that's the way it will go down. For the record, you can get OGs day 2 more than any other position. Drafting number 1 overall doesn't mean you automatically have the guy for years to come either. Lastly day 2 is round 2 now.
Good points. I also believe that OG's can be found later in the draft. This year Johnson and Jerry will be solid OG candidates that will be drafted in round 3. OG's can also be found from college OT's that dont have the quick feet necessary to play OT in the pros but have the size and strength to play inside.
Originally posted by TheRatMan13:Originally posted by mayo63:Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I would bet a lot of money that the Niners dont select 2 OL in round 1. I think the Niners will take an OT (williams,bulaga,davis) along with BPA (Haden,Spiller,Graham).
Hate to say it, but your probably right.
I think this would be the best way to go about it. Draft your immediate starter on the OL in the first round. Draft the guy who needs to learn in the 2nd or 3rd. I dont think the Niners are going to give up on Baas yet. If Alex Smith deserves a real chance to prove himself, then so does Baas.
Originally posted by pd24:
Ill take that also. A good o line means atleast 4 yards a pop for the RB and some time for the QB to throw. We could have a nice ball controll O and our D will be better for the simple fact that they get to rest more.
Originally posted by cupcheck:Originally posted by pd24:
Ill take that also. A good o line means atleast 4 yards a pop for the RB and some time for the QB to throw. We could have a nice ball controll O and our D will be better for the simple fact that they get to rest more.
I'm all for improving the talent level on the OL.But don't delude yourself, 5 OL men will never be able to consistently provide running lanes against 8 in the box.A mismatch with speed on the edge nullifies that defensive formation.
Originally posted by ninertico:
oops, dbl post...
Originally posted by ninertico:
If that picture doesn't validate this thread, I don't know what else does! Great to know our organization was willing to go outside (or in this case, inside) the box! We talked about it. I remember using Trent Williams as an example because I never thought A. Davis would get out of the 10th spot. Missed by one.
I couldn't be happier with those two behemoths. Both remind me of Will Shields, RG, and Willie Shields (LT) who Solari coached under Raye with KC back in 2002. Man those two where monsters! Now we have Solari's new upgraded version of those two.
Singletary always said he wanted to "will" those two yards. Now he can!
Originally posted by MadDog49er:Originally posted by ninertico:
If that picture doesn't validate this thread, I don't know what else does! Great to know our organization was willing to go outside (or in this case, inside) the box! We talked about it. I remember using Trent Williams as an example because I never thought A. Davis would get out of the 10th spot. Missed by one.
I couldn't be happier with those two behemoths. Both remind me of Will Shields, RG, and Willie Shields (LT) who Solari coached under Raye with KC back in 2002. Man those two where monsters! Now we have Solari's new upgraded version of those two.
Singletary always said he wanted to "will" those two yards. Now he can!
This picture makes my day! Woof!
Originally posted by ninertico:
And then we shift to STATS, Inc., for numbers on sacks allowed:
Adam Snyder: 9 sacks for 54 yards in 16 games (16 starts).
David Baas: 4 sacks for 26.5 yards in 16 games (16 starts).
Chilo Rachal: 4 sacks for 23 yards in 16 games (15 starts).
Joe Staley: 3 sacks for 18 yards in 9 games (9 starts).
Barry Sims: 2.5 sacks for 7 yards in 9 games (7 starts).
Tony Pashos: 2.5 sacks for 16 yards in 5 games (1 start).
Tony Wragge: 1 sack for 9 yards in limited duty (no starts).
Eric Heitmann: ½ sack for 3.5 yards in 16 games (16 starts).
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Those two bolded players have their replacements ready!
Trent Williams and Mike Iupati please c'mon down!
Originally posted by MadDog49er:Originally posted by ninertico:
If that picture doesn't validate this thread, I don't know what else does! Great to know our organization was willing to go outside (or in this case, inside) the box! We talked about it. I remember using Trent Williams as an example because I never thought A. Davis would get out of the 10th spot. Missed by one.
I couldn't be happier with those two behemoths. Both remind me of Will Shields, RG, and Willie Shields (LT) who Solari coached under Raye with KC back in 2002. Man those two where monsters! Now we have Solari's new upgraded version of those two.
Singletary always said he wanted to "will" those two yards. Now he can!
This picture makes my day! Woof!