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krizay
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Originally posted by dlance:
with Brandon Graham being 6' 1" to small for DE and not athletic enough for OLB do you think he will fall. and with guy having great pro days like Everson Griffen just ran a 4.6 at pro day is he being moved down boards??? Derrick Morgan,Jason Pierre-Paul, Sergio Kindle, Everson Griffen, Jerry Hughes, are all so called bigger faster stronger. I know he has a faster 40 then some of these guy but there all a little bigger or a bit faster, or a little better here or there. Who out of all these guy is going to fall and if they make it to the second round would you want to trade up to get them??
As much as I would love Graham at #13. I have him going #21 to Cincy. I have us taking Kindle at #24. We trade Number #13 to Eagles for #24, #55 & #121. So they can grab Earl Thomas.
I personally don't think any make it to the 2nd. Especially not our 2nd. Got Griffen going #32 to New Orleans.
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nickbradley
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Originally posted by dlance:
with Brandon Graham being 6' 1" to small for DE and not athletic enough for OLB do you think he will fall. and with guy having great pro days like Everson Griffen just ran a 4.6 at pro day is he being moved down boards??? Derrick Morgan,Jason Pierre-Paul, Sergio Kindle, Everson Griffen, Jerry Hughes, are all so called bigger faster stronger. I know he has a faster 40 then some of these guy but there all a little bigger or a bit faster, or a little better here or there. Who out of all these guy is going to fall and if they make it to the second round would you want to trade up to get them??
I think Graham is going to fall, quite a bit. He doesn't quite fit into a 4-3 or 3-4, so he falls. Kindle is going to fall too -- shoot, Kindle may drop to us for #49.
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9erred
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by dlance:
with Brandon Graham being 6' 1" to small for DE and not athletic enough for OLB do you think he will fall. and with guy having great pro days like Everson Griffen just ran a 4.6 at pro day is he being moved down boards??? Derrick Morgan,Jason Pierre-Paul, Sergio Kindle, Everson Griffen, Jerry Hughes, are all so called bigger faster stronger. I know he has a faster 40 then some of these guy but there all a little bigger or a bit faster, or a little better here or there. Who out of all these guy is going to fall and if they make it to the second round would you want to trade up to get them??
I think Graham is going to fall, quite a bit. He doesn't quite fit into a 4-3 or 3-4, so he falls. Kindle is going to fall too -- shoot, Kindle may drop to us for #49.
He will not make it past #22, the Patriots. I am predicting right now that Graham will make an impact as a rookie. He OWNED Brian Bulaga at the senior bowl.
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dlance
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Graham reminds me of lamarr woodley who fell to pick 46 second round, I Liked Lamarr coming out and I want the 49er to take him in the second. I don't think graham will fall to the second but i think one of them maybe.
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jreff22
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Miami...Porter is gone and I think Parcells will love to have him.
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LumpiaJeff
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I don't think Graham is going to fall. Someone will select him in the middle of the 1st round. Yes, he's a little undersized, but teams will see him on film and fall in love with his motor and his on the field production. Miami knows first hand after coaching him on the senior bowl squad.
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nickbradley
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Miami...Porter is gone and I think Parcells will love to have him.
JPP bro.
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jreff22
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Miami...Porter is gone and I think Parcells will love to have him.
JPP bro.
He's a one year wonder, Graham is the guy who keeps getting compared to Woodley (by everybody)
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rk1642
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I also think he drops to the middle to lower 1st round area. Smallish and film not as good as the Senior Bowl and Combine.
Never know though, a team can easily fall in love with a player and reach.
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BigBug415
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Forget all the measurables, Brandon Graham is going to be a PLAYMAKER. Period.
I just hope we snatch him up at 17 or it may be a decision we look back at and regret we didn't make.
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miked1978
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Graham isn't going to make it past New England. If we want him we must get him at #17.
Graham is similar to Lamar Woodley. Somebody mentioned Woodley fell to #46 or something like that so I think teams will learn their lesson and go ahead and take him early.
I think we pass on him. Baalke and Singletary both put major emphasis on height and Graham falls a bit short so... I think we pick up a OLB in the middle rounds.
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toeknee
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Barring any trades, if Miami and Tennessee pass on him I think he's there at 17 and we should take him. Hopefully the rumors about Miami wanting Spiller are true and they take him or they take either JPP or Morgan if he's there. And hopefully the Titans take a corner.
But if the top 3 tackles are gone by 13 and Graham is there, I say take him and take whoever is left of Davis or Brown at 17.
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m_brockalexander
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by dlance:
with Brandon Graham being 6' 1" to small for DE and not athletic enough for OLB do you think he will fall. and with guy having great pro days like Everson Griffen just ran a 4.6 at pro day is he being moved down boards??? Derrick Morgan,Jason Pierre-Paul, Sergio Kindle, Everson Griffen, Jerry Hughes, are all so called bigger faster stronger. I know he has a faster 40 then some of these guy but there all a little bigger or a bit faster, or a little better here or there. Who out of all these guy is going to fall and if they make it to the second round would you want to trade up to get them??
I think Graham is going to fall, quite a bit. He doesn't quite fit into a 4-3 or 3-4, so he falls. Kindle is going to fall too -- shoot, Kindle may drop to us for #49.
Check your prescription........ I think you're taking the wrong dosage. He won't get past the Patriots.
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saniner
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Originally posted by 9erred:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by dlance:
with Brandon Graham being 6' 1" to small for DE and not athletic enough for OLB do you think he will fall. and with guy having great pro days like Everson Griffen just ran a 4.6 at pro day is he being moved down boards??? Derrick Morgan,Jason Pierre-Paul, Sergio Kindle, Everson Griffen, Jerry Hughes, are all so called bigger faster stronger. I know he has a faster 40 then some of these guy but there all a little bigger or a bit faster, or a little better here or there. Who out of all these guy is going to fall and if they make it to the second round would you want to trade up to get them??
I think Graham is going to fall, quite a bit. He doesn't quite fit into a 4-3 or 3-4, so he falls. Kindle is going to fall too -- shoot, Kindle may drop to us for #49.
He will not make it past #22, the Patriots. I am predicting right now that Graham will make an impact as a rookie. He OWNED Brian Bulaga at the senior bowl.
Graham owned just about everybody he played against.
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saniner
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I don't see him falling too far. I think if he makes it to 22 the Patriots wouldn't think twice about picking him up. Guys like LaMarr Woodley and James Harrison have proved that you don't need to have that prototypical size to produce. The only issue with Graham is his run support.