Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
So I just watched the game and I think Mardy Gilyard might be a great pick for us if (which it looks like the case) McCluster is gone when our 2nd comes around.
What is everyone's thoughts on picking a WR/KR/PR in the 2nd in Gilyard? I think it'd be a great pick if we got OL OL or OL/defensive player with the first 2 picks. Yeah I know that's possibly 3 offensive players in 3 picks but where do we need help? Offensively.
I'd actually much rather nab a CB/KR. The Niners already have a pretty big group of WR's, I think improving the Oline, giving the QB more time to throw will improve the passing game.
Butter, I think many around here are forgetting that we need to draft a WR regardless this year. We're only going to be going into the off-season with 4. Battle and Bruce aren't coming back. We'll have Crabtree, Morgan, Hill, and Jones. That's it.
Now, if we're going to draft a WR, why don't we get one who is a dynamic kick returner? That way, if we draft a CB/KR, if he goes down we still have a second return specialist and we aren't left scrambling. That's smart drafting.
Gilyard is an outstanding player and a 1st-round talent, without question. If he's there in the 2nd, I do not see or expect any other CB of greater value (that fits the system we play here) on the board.
What about Zeigler? Is he done with the Niners?
I agree, the Niners should draft a WR in this draft. It just seems like there is an abundance of speedy little WR's in this draft. Hopefully, the Niners could nab a value pick after the 4th round to be a WR/KR.
I am, however, interested in your assessment of these players?
Zeigler is never going to surpass any rookie we draft nor would he get ahead of Jones or Hill on the depth chart. So, yes, he's essentially done. He will not be on the 49ers active roster at any point barring some massive barrage of injuries.
Shipley is a solid 2nd round talent who would make a nice slot receiver. He has good hands to make the tough catch and has a great work ethic. I wouldn't be too upset if we took him in the 2nd, but I think there will be better values available. Right now, I wouldn't expect Shipley to make it to the 3rd though.
Ford is a solid 3rd rounder who could sneak into the 2nd if he blisters the track at the combine. I have him graded as a 3rd with a "high" projection of the late 2nd, and "low" of the early 4th. Ford shows great body control and can adjust to poorly thrown balls. He plays much bigger than his 5-9 181 size, but he'd make a nice slot WR to start his career. I don't see him becoming much more than a #2 for any team at least for several years.
Antonio Brown is a very intriguing player. A compact guy, but like Ford, sort of built like a running back. Brown is a tad under the radar, yet he's been very productive, and is a fantastic KR/PR too. He may go a little later because he's not quite as polished as the others, coming out as a junior, but at 5-10 182, and probable to run at the very worst somewhere in the low 4.4's, Brown is another great slot WR prospect. I grade him as a 3rd rounder, but he could fall to the 4th or 5th and would present a great value there.
Price is the one I like the least. Yes, he's fast. But I don't see the consistency. I'm just not that high on the guy. It's not that he's a bad player, I just don't rate him as highly as most, and for several key reasons. Ready for them? Here we go. He's not a dominant player by any means (1 catch for 8 yards today). I don't feel his hands have been as consistent nor do I feel he's great at catching the ball in traffic or under pressure. Also, he really didn't produce much despite not facing top competition. I don't think he's all that great of a blocker either. To me, Price grades as a 4th-5th round talent. I don't agree with any assessments saying he should go in the 3rd or higher. At best, I could see someone maybe using a 3rd round compensatory on the guy, but that's a reach in my opinion. His speed numbers at the combine, if he runs the expected 4.35, will get people all caught up with him. But you need more than speed to be successful.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Jan 30, 2010 at 11:02 PM ]