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Prospect Watch: Senior Bowl 2010 GameDay Thread

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Brandon Graham is a very solid player but I view him as a slightly better prospect than Parys Haralson. Maybe in the right scheme he can be a double digit sack guy but then again Haralson nearly was a double digit sack guy in 08 but no one will ever confuse him with an elite pass rusher.

I hope people finally wake up now and realize Tim Tebow is a 3rd rd prospect AT BEST.

Iupati will go where he belongs, in the 20-32 range.

I hope we get Gilyard, McCluster or Arenas (or Spiller).

I still like Bulaga and Earl Thomas with our 2 1st rd picks.

Haralson was nowhere near the prospect that Graham is. Haralson was drafted exactly where he should've been -- in the 5th round.

Haralson has not once been in the double digits his entire career. He had 8 in 2008. He never even had double-digit sacks in college, with the most he ever had being 8.5 his senior year.

Graham led the nation in TFL and has had back to back double-digit sack years. He's a monster and a man playing amongst boys. He and Haralson are completely uncomparable.

Agreed, and I watched just about every game Parys played at Tennessee...love the guy and was extremely happy we drafted him, but he's not in the same conversation in terms of pass rush skills, size, physical abilities and ranking as a prospect as Graham is.

I really like Haralson too, but I'd love to see him come in as a 3rd down specialist. I'd love to have a legit OLB who was enough of an upgrade to send Parys to the bench. If Graham is that guy, I'd love to have him.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Brandon Graham is a very solid player but I view him as a slightly better prospect than Parys Haralson. Maybe in the right scheme he can be a double digit sack guy but then again Haralson nearly was a double digit sack guy in 08 but no one will ever confuse him with an elite pass rusher.

I hope people finally wake up now and realize Tim Tebow is a 3rd rd prospect AT BEST.

Iupati will go where he belongs, in the 20-32 range.

I hope we get Gilyard, McCluster or Arenas (or Spiller).

I still like Bulaga and Earl Thomas with our 2 1st rd picks.

Haralson was nowhere near the prospect that Graham is. Haralson was drafted exactly where he should've been -- in the 5th round.

Haralson has not once been in the double digits his entire career. He had 8 in 2008. He never even had double-digit sacks in college, with the most he ever had being 8.5 his senior year.

Graham led the nation in TFL and has had back to back double-digit sack years. He's a monster and a man playing amongst boys. He and Haralson are completely uncomparable.


Haralson was projected as a 2nd rd pick and he was a big time player in the SEC and was Tennessee's defensive captain and player of the year twice and that is when Tennessee was a top 20- top 10 school.

Yes Graham is a better prospect but I don't think he is all that much better and he has to be in the right scheme with the right players around him. In my first mock I had him going to the Jets at 28 or 29, now I think he will be a top 20 pick of course depending on how he works out.
Originally posted by mayo63:
I just wish Graham was a little taller.

I wish he was a baller
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Originally posted by TlSSER:
Originally posted by mayo63:
I just wish Graham was a little taller.

I wish he was a baller

If he's good, who cares about his height? Look at Dummervil of Denver or Woodley for the Steelers.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by nekst:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
For those who are making up that Scot said "6-4 240 or I won't draft them" -- He did not say that. They PREFER them to be around at least 6-2 240. I highly doubt McCloughlan is going to disqualify Brandon Graham based on his measurables.

If he's into getting the BPA and "Just good football players" as he always says, he'll have Graham high on his board.

Graham, Game MVP and Defensive MVP.

Mardy Gilyard offensive MVP.


Top offensive producers: Gilyard - 5 receptions for 102, 1 TD.
Jeremy Williams - 6 catches for 83 yards, 1 run for 27 yards.

1- Not making it up, it was from MM's blog last year IIRC.

2- I never said he would be disqualified

3- Why not just quote my post if you want to discuss that ?

From Maiocco's blog:

Quote:
--My opinion about Aaron Maybin and Everette Brown has not changed. I still do not believe the 49ers would give either of them serious consideration at No. 10. In fact, McCloughan did give a hint about Brown when he said he would want that player to be at least 6-2 and 240 to 260 pounds. Brown checks under 6-foot-2.

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/04/trying-to-read-between-mccloughans-lines.html

If we pass on Graham because of a half an inch of height we don't deserve to be good next year. Ok if there's a better player. But because of height, that would be ridiculous. Manny is like 6'5'' and look how great Scott's prototypical OLB has done so far


Manny has improved each year. None of the OT Graham is playing against are projected first round draft picks.
Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by nekst:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
For those who are making up that Scot said "6-4 240 or I won't draft them" -- He did not say that. They PREFER them to be around at least 6-2 240. I highly doubt McCloughlan is going to disqualify Brandon Graham based on his measurables.

If he's into getting the BPA and "Just good football players" as he always says, he'll have Graham high on his board.

Graham, Game MVP and Defensive MVP.

Mardy Gilyard offensive MVP.


Top offensive producers: Gilyard - 5 receptions for 102, 1 TD.
Jeremy Williams - 6 catches for 83 yards, 1 run for 27 yards.

1- Not making it up, it was from MM's blog last year IIRC.

2- I never said he would be disqualified

3- Why not just quote my post if you want to discuss that ?

From Maiocco's blog:

Quote:
--My opinion about Aaron Maybin and Everette Brown has not changed. I still do not believe the 49ers would give either of them serious consideration at No. 10. In fact, McCloughan did give a hint about Brown when he said he would want that player to be at least 6-2 and 240 to 260 pounds. Brown checks under 6-foot-2.

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/04/trying-to-read-between-mccloughans-lines.html

If we pass on Graham because of a half an inch of height we don't deserve to be good next year. Ok if there's a better player. But because of height, that would be ridiculous. Manny is like 6'5'' and look how great Scott's prototypical OLB has done so far


Manny has improved each year. None of the OT Graham is playing against are projected first round draft picks.

True, but at least two are projected as 2nd-3rd round guys and he abused them. Graham lined up on both the right and left sides today, beating Scott, Black, and Capers all around the edge.
Originally posted by TlSSER:
Originally posted by mayo63:
I just wish Graham was a little taller.

I wish he was a baller

I wish he had a girl who looked good

I would call her
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by TlSSER:
Originally posted by mayo63:
I just wish Graham was a little taller.

I wish he was a baller

I wish he had a girl who looked good

I would call her

But back to the topic, today he was not a faller.
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by TlSSER:
Originally posted by mayo63:
I just wish Graham was a little taller.

I wish he was a baller

I wish he had a girl who looked good

I would call her

I wish he had a rabbit in a hat...
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by TlSSER:
Originally posted by mayo63:
I just wish Graham was a little taller.

I wish he was a baller

I wish he had a girl who looked good

I would call her

But back to the topic, today he was not a faller.

LOL
So I just watched the game and I think Mardy Gilyard might be a great pick for us if (which it looks like the case) McCluster is gone when our 2nd comes around.

What is everyone's thoughts on picking a WR/KR/PR in the 2nd in Gilyard? I think it'd be a great pick if we got OL OL or OL/defensive player with the first 2 picks. Yeah I know that's possibly 3 offensive players in 3 picks but where do we need help? Offensively.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
So I just watched the game and I think Mardy Gilyard might be a great pick for us if (which it looks like the case) McCluster is gone when our 2nd comes around.

What is everyone's thoughts on picking a WR/KR/PR in the 2nd in Gilyard? I think it'd be a great pick if we got OL OL or OL/defensive player with the first 2 picks. Yeah I know that's possibly 3 offensive players in 3 picks but where do we need help? Offensively.

I wouldn't have any problems with picking Gilyard. But it depends on what we do in the first, and who is there in the 2nd.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
So I just watched the game and I think Mardy Gilyard might be a great pick for us if (which it looks like the case) McCluster is gone when our 2nd comes around.

What is everyone's thoughts on picking a WR/KR/PR in the 2nd in Gilyard? I think it'd be a great pick if we got OL OL or OL/defensive player with the first 2 picks. Yeah I know that's possibly 3 offensive players in 3 picks but where do we need help? Offensively.

I'd actually much rather nab a CB/KR. The Niners already have a pretty big group of WR's, I think improving the Oline, giving the QB more time to throw will improve the passing game.
Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
So I just watched the game and I think Mardy Gilyard might be a great pick for us if (which it looks like the case) McCluster is gone when our 2nd comes around.

What is everyone's thoughts on picking a WR/KR/PR in the 2nd in Gilyard? I think it'd be a great pick if we got OL OL or OL/defensive player with the first 2 picks. Yeah I know that's possibly 3 offensive players in 3 picks but where do we need help? Offensively.

I'd actually much rather nab a CB/KR. The Niners already have a pretty big group of WR's, I think improving the Oline, giving the QB more time to throw will improve the passing game.

Butter, I think many around here are forgetting that we need to draft a WR regardless this year. We're only going to be going into the off-season with 4. Battle and Bruce aren't coming back. We'll have Crabtree, Morgan, Hill, and Jones. That's it.

Now, if we're going to draft a WR, why don't we get one who is a dynamic kick returner? That way, if we draft a CB/KR, if he goes down we still have a second return specialist and we aren't left scrambling. That's smart drafting.

Gilyard is an outstanding player and a 1st-round talent, without question. If he's there in the 2nd, I do not see or expect any other CB of greater value (that fits the system we play here) on the board.
graham+bulaga+gilyard = jizzzzz