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No More Mediocracy Mock Plan

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Resigning -

Ahmed Brooks - 1 year deal (RFA)
David Baas - 1 year deal (RFA)
Aubrayo Franklin - 1 year deal (Franchise)
Barry Sims - 2 year deal
Mark Roman - 1 year deal
Walt Harris - 1 year deal

Cut -

DeMetric Evans - DE/DT
Brandon Jones - WR
Reggie Smith - CB/S

Free Agency -

Matt Roth - DE/OLB

- Competition breeds success. Matt Roth is an outstanding pass rusher and still has room to grow. Break the bank on this kid, because he's sure better than Haralson.

Roth: Link
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Haralson: Link


Terrell Owens - WR

- Owens is not a #1 WR anymore in his career. But compare him to #2s in this league, specifically on our team, and he is one of the best in the business. Look, if you followed the Bills this season, you'd know the following:

A. Jauron fired the offensive coordinator in the beginning of the season.
B. Dick Jauron was fired mid-season.
C. Trent Edwards was inconsistent throughout the season, and was injured mid-season.
D. Ryan Fitzpatrick also was fairly inconsistent and suffered with some injury woes.
E. Owens still put up a respectable 50+ catches, 800+ yards receiving, and 5 TDs. He also had 1 TD rushing.
F. No one has doubted his passion for the game, and he's a great mentor for young WRs on the team.


NFL draft -

R1: C.J. Spiller - RB/KR - Clemson

- The San Francisco 49ers lack a true home run hitter on offense outside of Frank Gore. In order to that to change, the 49ers need to draft C.J. Spiller. A speed threat on offense and special teams, the 49ers address two holes with one pick. Coffee can be used as a short yardage back.

*Trade: 49ers trade second 1st round pick to the Chargers for their 1st and 2nd round draft picks. Pretty much even. The Chargers trade up for Dan Williams, best rated NT in the first. The 49ers trade back and gain a valuable 2nd round draft pick to use on impact players. San Diego has few needs with an uncapped year (aka boatload of RFAs).

R1: Charles Brown - OT - USC (f/ Chargers)
(or Bruce Campbell - OT - Maryland)
- With a glaring hole at right tackle, the 49ers use this pick to select Charles Brown. A former TE, Brown has the strength and skill to flourish at RT. Very similar to Staley in college, and Staley performed just fine at RT in his rookie season.

R2: T.J. Ward - SS - Oregon

- As you can tell by my previous mocks, I am a big T.J. Ward fan. With question marks looming regarding our safeties - specifically Lewis and Smith - the 49ers need to address this position early. Ward has great tackling ability, and has demonstrated the skill to make big plays. While we resign Roman, he'll stay at FS and Ward at SS.

R2: Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama (f/ Chargers)

- The benefit of the trade down is to obtain another pick in the 2nd round. With our weakness at offensive line, we could certainly use another guard. Johnson is a mammoth, and he's a natural fit in a power-blocking scheme that wants to focus on the run. Baas is moved to RG to compete with Rachal.

R3: Kyle Wilson - CB/KR - Boise St.
- With our main holes addressed, we can add some developmental picks at this point in the draft. With question marks surrounding Nate Clements' future with the 49ers, it would be smart for the team to draft a CB as a future starter, but immediate player on Special Teams. Wilson fits that bill as he's demonstrated strong play at CB, and even better play on special teams - including KR and PR duties.

*Trade: 4th and 5th round picks for 3rd round pick

R3: Micah Johnson - ILB - Kentucky

- Again, another pick as a developmental/special teams impact player. Johnson has the frame and ability to succeed as a TED, behind Spikes. I am not a big fan of losing 2 draft picks to trade up, but in order to secure Johnson, I think we may have to bite the bullet. If we ignore QB, and already address OL and the secondary, I think we'll be fine with the trade up.

R6: Nate Byham - TE - Pittsburgh

- Potential blocking TE with some receiving ability.

R7: Brandon James - RB/KR - Florida

- PS player with ST ability. A good player to have on the practice squad if Spiller gets injured.

Depth Chart -


QB: Smith/Hill/Davis
RB: Gore/Spiller*/Coffee PS: James*
FB: Norris/Robinson
TE: Davis/Walker/Byham*

WR: Crabtree/Morgan
WR: Owens*/Zeigler
WR: Hill

LT: Staley/Sims
LG: Johnson*/Wragge
OC: Heitmann/Wallace
RG: Baas/Rachal
RT: Brown*/Snyder

LE: Smith/McDonald
NT: Franklin/RJF
RE: Sopoaga/Balmer

OLB: Lawson/Brooks
ILB: Willis/McKillop
ILB: Spikes/Johnson*
OLB: Roth*/Haralson

CB: Clements/Harris
CB: Spencer/Brown/Wilson*
FS: Goldson/Roman
SS: Lewis/Ward*

ST: Nedney, Lee, Jennings
i dont want roman associated with the 9ers ever again. that fool cost us so many gms him alone. i like the draft though
Originally posted by GEEK:
Resigning -

Ahmed Brooks - 1 year deal (RFA)
David Baas - 1 year deal (RFA)
Aubrayo Franklin - 1 year deal (Franchise)
Barry Sims - 2 year deal
Mark Roman - 1 year deal
Walt Harris - 1 year deal

Cut -

DeMetric Evans - DE/DT
Brandon Jones - WR
Reggie Smith - CB/S

Free Agency -

Matt Roth - DE/OLB

- Competition breeds success. Matt Roth is an outstanding pass rusher and still has room to grow. Break the bank on this kid, because he's sure better than Haralson.

Roth: Link
v.
Haralson: Link


Terrell Owens - WR

- Owens is not a #1 WR anymore in his career. But compare him to #2s in this league, specifically on our team, and he is one of the best in the business. Look, if you followed the Bills this season, you'd know the following:

A. Jauron fired the offensive coordinator in the beginning of the season.
B. Dick Jauron was fired mid-season.
C. Trent Edwards was inconsistent throughout the season, and was injured mid-season.
D. Ryan Fitzpatrick also was fairly inconsistent and suffered with some injury woes.
E. Owens still put up a respectable 50+ catches, 800+ yards receiving, and 5 TDs. He also had 1 TD rushing.
F. No one has doubted his passion for the game, and he's a great mentor for young WRs on the team.


NFL draft -

R1: C.J. Spiller - RB/KR - Clemson

- The San Francisco 49ers lack a true home run hitter on offense outside of Frank Gore. In order to that to change, the 49ers need to draft C.J. Spiller. A speed threat on offense and special teams, the 49ers address two holes with one pick. Coffee can be used as a short yardage back.

*Trade: 49ers trade second 1st round pick to the Chargers for their 1st and 2nd round draft picks. Pretty much even. The Chargers trade up for Dan Williams, best rated NT in the first. The 49ers trade back and gain a valuable 2nd round draft pick to use on impact players. San Diego has few needs with an uncapped year (aka boatload of RFAs).

R1: Charles Brown - OT - USC (f/ Chargers)
(or Bruce Campbell - OT - Maryland)
- With a glaring hole at right tackle, the 49ers use this pick to select Charles Brown. A former TE, Brown has the strength and skill to flourish at RT. Very similar to Staley in college, and Staley performed just fine at RT in his rookie season.

R2: T.J. Ward - SS - Oregon

- As you can tell by my previous mocks, I am a big T.J. Ward fan. With question marks looming regarding our safeties - specifically Lewis and Smith - the 49ers need to address this position early. Ward has great tackling ability, and has demonstrated the skill to make big plays. While we resign Roman, he'll stay at FS and Ward at SS.

R2: Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama (f/ Chargers)

- The benefit of the trade down is to obtain another pick in the 2nd round. With our weakness at offensive line, we could certainly use another guard. Johnson is a mammoth, and he's a natural fit in a power-blocking scheme that wants to focus on the run. Baas is moved to RG to compete with Rachal.

R3: Kyle Wilson - CB/KR - Boise St.
- With our main holes addressed, we can add some developmental picks at this point in the draft. With question marks surrounding Nate Clements' future with the 49ers, it would be smart for the team to draft a CB as a future starter, but immediate player on Special Teams. Wilson fits that bill as he's demonstrated strong play at CB, and even better play on special teams - including KR and PR duties.

*Trade: 4th and 5th round picks for 3rd round pick

R3: Micah Johnson - ILB - Kentucky

- Again, another pick as a developmental/special teams impact player. Johnson has the frame and ability to succeed as a TED, behind Spikes. I am not a big fan of losing 2 draft picks to trade up, but in order to secure Johnson, I think we may have to bite the bullet. If we ignore QB, and already address OL and the secondary, I think we'll be fine with the trade up.

R6: Nate Byham - TE - Pittsburgh

- Potential blocking TE with some receiving ability.

R7: Brandon James - RB/KR - Florida

- PS player with ST ability. A good player to have on the practice squad if Spiller gets injured.

Depth Chart -


QB: Smith/Hill/Davis
RB: Gore/Spiller*/Coffee PS: James*
FB: Norris/Robinson
TE: Davis/Walker/Byham*

WR: Crabtree/Morgan
WR: Owens*/Zeigler
WR: Hill

LT: Staley/Sims
LG: Johnson*/Wragge
OC: Heitmann/Wallace
RG: Baas/Rachal
RT: Brown*/Snyder

LE: Smith/McDonald
NT: Franklin/RJF
RE: Sopoaga/Balmer

OLB: Lawson/Brooks
ILB: Willis/McKillop
ILB: Spikes/Johnson*
OLB: Roth*/Haralson

CB: Clements/Harris
CB: Spencer/Brown/Wilson*
FS: Goldson/Roman
SS: Lewis/Ward*

ST: Nedney, Lee, Jennings

Lot s of things I don't like here:
Re-signing Roman would be a terrible news and i'm not even bothering explaining why anyone that has watched should know
Spiller with our 1st pick makes no sense Gore is an elite back why draft a backup RB with your 1st pick? we have bigger holes
TO in FA????? WTF are you thinking?
Then in RD 3 you state that our holes are filled and we can add a developmental player and you have us taking a CB/KR? didn't we just get a 1st round KR in your mock?
you don't have us signing or drafting star S or passrusher so I guess you think our D doesn't even need 1 big addition which is wrong
we need to sign or draft in the 1st round 2 OL our problem is in the trenches
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I don't think we get T.O in FA even though I don't think it's a horrible idea unlike some Niners fans. He's made some noise about wanting to come back and if he does it cheaply I'd be all for it.

I think Scott M will grab Spiller if he's available. He's said he's a believer in the BPA philsophy, so if Spiller's there we'll get him. If we do any draft day trades we'll go back, not up, so those make sense to me as well.

I like the additional picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Very smart.

For FB I don't think it'll be M-Rob and Norris. I bet Miller gets a chance at FB plus the Niners just signed RB Jehuu Caulcrick to a future contract. He's a big bruiser of a back and looks like he might be able to play FB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAljSBJrOrQ
Originally posted by smileyman:
I don't think we get T.O in FA even though I don't think it's a horrible idea unlike some Niners fans. He's made some noise about wanting to come back and if he does it cheaply I'd be all for it.

I think Scott M will grab Spiller if he's available. He's said he's a believer in the BPA philsophy, so if Spiller's there we'll get him. If we do any draft day trades we'll go back, not up, so those make sense to me as well.

I like the additional picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Very smart.

For FB I don't think it'll be M-Rob and Norris. I bet Miller gets a chance at FB plus the Niners just signed RB Jehuu Caulcrick to a future contract. He's a big bruiser of a back and looks like he might be able to play FB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAljSBJrOrQ
I've become a big Caulcrick fan ever since news came out that we picked him up... I liked what I saw from Miller from the last preseason, it'll be interesting to see what he's like after a year of training as a fullback.
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Originally posted by modninerfan:
I liked what I saw from Miller from the last preseason, it'll be interesting to see what he's like after a year of training as a fullback.

Miller really impressed me too. I've disliked Norris for awhile now and I really hope we replace him for the 2010 season. With the Caulcrick signing I have to wonder if Coffee's days as a Niner are numbered.
Originally posted by smileyman:
I don't think we get T.O in FA even though I don't think it's a horrible idea unlike some Niners fans. He's made some noise about wanting to come back and if he does it cheaply I'd be all for it.

I think Scott M will grab Spiller if he's available. He's said he's a believer in the BPA philsophy, so if Spiller's there we'll get him. If we do any draft day trades we'll go back, not up, so those make sense to me as well.

I like the additional picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Very smart.

For FB I don't think it'll be M-Rob and Norris. I bet Miller gets a chance at FB plus the Niners just signed RB Jehuu Caulcrick to a future contract. He's a big bruiser of a back and looks like he might be able to play FB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAljSBJrOrQ

Agree, I want Spiller really bad. Don't want Roman back next year.
Originally posted by smileyman:
I think Scott M will grab Spiller if he's available. He's said he's a believer in the BPA philsophy, so if Spiller's there we'll get him. If we do any draft day trades we'll go back, not up, so those make sense to me as well.

I don't believe that will equal Spiller necessarily. It will depend on what happens with the OT's, if a heavy run starts to go on those guys, he may have to pull the trigger on one if he is indeed looking to secure a RT early on (like the run on OT's in 2008 where we saw Houston, Carolina and Atlanta trade UP for OT's). It will also depend on how Spiller grades out overall, just because the consensus seems to be him going in the top 20 does not mean we will have the same grade applied as the consensus does.

Ted Thompson in GB is a firm believer in BPA but he pulled the trigger on Raji with Crabtree on the board last year. Perhaps Raji graded out higher, but the Packers are pretty deep at WR and were thin on the DL especially for a team switching to a 3-4 D. From the outside looking in, it appears TT drafted for need and not BPA last April.

A couple of thoughts Matt Roth is only a free agent if the CBA gets renewed.
I like Owens and under the right scenario I'd be happy to bring him back, but he's going to be the third receiving option in a balanced attack. I just don't think it'll work.
Where to start? Some bold moves and picks, but I have some serious doubts.

- Roman had a decent year, but that doesn't eliminate the stench he left from the two previous years. Smith has been invisible, but the Niners need to get younger and faster at safety. He stays over Roman.
- The Niners had their shot at Roth and lost their claim to the Browns. The guy had 28 tackles and 4 sacks in 6 games for the Browns. He's not going anywhere.
- The Niners need a speed WR to work the seam or stretch the D. That is not TO's game anymore.
- Wouldn't go for C. Brown if Bulaga was available with the second first round pick. Don't like losing an extra pick just to get Micah Johnson. The Niners do not need to invest 3 picks on KR's, two will do.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by smileyman:
I think Scott M will grab Spiller if he's available. He's said he's a believer in the BPA philsophy, so if Spiller's there we'll get him. If we do any draft day trades we'll go back, not up, so those make sense to me as well.

I don't believe that will equal Spiller necessarily. It will depend on what happens with the OT's, if a heavy run starts to go on those guys, he may have to pull the trigger on one if he is indeed looking to secure a RT early on (like the run on OT's in 2008 where we saw Houston, Carolina and Atlanta trade UP for OT's). It will also depend on how Spiller grades out overall, just because the consensus seems to be him going in the top 20 does not mean we will have the same grade applied as the consensus does.

Ted Thompson in GB is a firm believer in BPA but he pulled the trigger on Raji with Crabtree on the board last year. Perhaps Raji graded out higher, but the Packers are pretty deep at WR and were thin on the DL especially for a team switching to a 3-4 D. From the outside looking in, it appears TT drafted for need and not BPA last April.


But if there is a run on OTs, that means we either have to 1) select an OT about 10-15 slots earlier than they deserve or 2) pick one of the players who falls because of the OT run.

for example, lets say a player was slotted to go around #10 and he drops to us. But the best available OT was slotted to go around #25. I say: let other teams take the Staleys and Baas' in the middle of the first round, we should take the Crabtrees.

Originally posted by nannite:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by smileyman:
I think Scott M will grab Spiller if he's available. He's said he's a believer in the BPA philsophy, so if Spiller's there we'll get him. If we do any draft day trades we'll go back, not up, so those make sense to me as well.

I don't believe that will equal Spiller necessarily. It will depend on what happens with the OT's, if a heavy run starts to go on those guys, he may have to pull the trigger on one if he is indeed looking to secure a RT early on (like the run on OT's in 2008 where we saw Houston, Carolina and Atlanta trade UP for OT's). It will also depend on how Spiller grades out overall, just because the consensus seems to be him going in the top 20 does not mean we will have the same grade applied as the consensus does.

Ted Thompson in GB is a firm believer in BPA but he pulled the trigger on Raji with Crabtree on the board last year. Perhaps Raji graded out higher, but the Packers are pretty deep at WR and were thin on the DL especially for a team switching to a 3-4 D. From the outside looking in, it appears TT drafted for need and not BPA last April.


But if there is a run on OTs, that means we either have to 1) select an OT about 10-15 slots earlier than they deserve or 2) pick one of the players who falls because of the OT run.

for example, lets say a player was slotted to go around #10 and he drops to us. But the best available OT was slotted to go around #25. I say: let other teams take the Staleys and Baas' in the middle of the first round, we should take the Crabtrees.


All depends on which OT's are gone as to how much of a reach the pick could be.
We still have a lot of upgrades to make and we're drafting ST people, starting in the third round? And multiple KR's?
I think the word you were looking for is Mediocrity.
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Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
I think the word you were looking for is Mediocrity.

Yep lol.
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