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MadDog's Early Big 100 Board

MD, you might have answered this a million times in other threads, but Tebow, QB, is ranked 33 on your board. Is he ranked 33 on his athletic ability to play FB or wildcat style offenses or the fact that Tebow WILL play QB in the NFL?
[ Edited by bergy07 on Dec 28, 2009 at 8:42 AM ]
Then, Spiller and Bulaga (starting OG in FA) or Bulaga and Iupati (kick returner in FA), Perrish Cox and Jason Fox.
[ Edited by Paul_Hofer on Dec 28, 2009 at 12:39 PM ]
Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Jahvid Best at 45, you better be ready for some angry Cal fans...

Hence, the disclaimer. Best can surely move up the board with some strong workouts. Much depends on his health. We'll soon see.

I read the disclaimer I was just busting your chops.

I knew you were messing around.
Originally posted by ishkabibel:
MadDog -- I noticed you have Iupati listed as OT/G. you figure he's quick enough to move outside?

That is the whispering going on in scouting circles. He is really athletic, with terrific footwork. I'd have no problem with the team converting him to RT. He's just a good football player.
MD do you really think Trevard Lindley will not be a top 100 pick cause that would be some drop from the pre-season projections when he was considered one of if not the best cover corner in this draft.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Norwood at 90? I think ur slipping a wee bit on that 1

Norwood's height is going to be a GIANT issue in the next few months. It is not fair, it is not right, but it is what it is. He's listed at 6', but I think the tape is going to say something more like 5' 10 3/4". And, despite the accomplishments of guys that short in the NFL, scouts and coaches love guys with height, and long arms.

Great college player that just doesn't project nearly as well to the pro game. He better run like the wind at the combine.
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Sweet . . . it's Christmas again!

Looks like a great draft year for the Big 12

Great top end talent. They stole the first three picks in my projection.
Originally posted by jreff22:
As always MD

Few questions for you......

In one of you responses you stated the Niners could be sitting at 15 and 16. If this does happen who do you see being real targets? I know you recommended Bulaga and Iupati but do you see them has real viable options. Bulaga scares the hell out of me with his injury past and to draft a kid who ends up being Glassman II means Snyder is back starting again. I know you don't like the thought but would the 2nd round be smarter at that point and target Fox out of Miami for instance?

In that range my thinking is Spiller, McClain, Thomas, Graham, and yes Bryant would be the sexy options....am I over looking anybody?

Even if the Niners reach, they are going to draft a RT, and with that first selection. It then allows them to play around with trade scenarios with the second selection.

Bulaga is so technically sound, but his size (about 310) and injury in 2009 might be a concern for the team. I really think the Niners want a bigger RT (the 325 pound variety), like Williams or Davis, to play there. That is what makes Iupati an option, even with a reach.
Originally posted by bergy07:
MD, you might have answered this a million times in other threads, but Tebow, QB, is ranked 33 on your board. Is he ranked 33 on his athletic ability to play FB or wildcat style offenses or the fact that Tebow WILL play QB in the NFL?

I think the Rams will draft him with the first selection in the second round as a QB. The Jags are simply going to select too early in the first round to make that pick, even though seemingly every person seems to think he's going to be drafted there.

I wouldn't touch Tebow as a QB if I was with a team, but someone will.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
With one week to go before the NFL season ends, and only 18 days before the deadline to declare for underclassmen (January 15), I have put up the first installment of a Big Board, which will cover the first 100 picks. These picks should cover the first three rounds. In future installments, I will add to this number (Big 150, 200, 250, and the final board).

Disclaimer for newcomers to the Big Board: This is NOT a mock draft, but a targetted area where I believe the player should fall. In other words, if I feel a player is most likely to be picked in the 14-20 range, my targetted number might be 17th overall.

The Big Board covers the angles for how I believe players will test out at the combine and campus workouts, at post-season bowl games and All-Star games, off the field issues, injury history, the methods and values placed on certain positions, etc. In other words, it is long-range projection.

This is also NOT a ranking of players, how I feel about their ability. This is how I perceive the draft to occur.

Enjoy the four month ride, and let the games begin. To estimate where the Niners will select, I have a strong hunch the team will pick 12th and 15th in this draft (we'll have to see how the final games play out), then 47th, then 78th (Washington forfeits its 2010 3rd rounder for a supplemental pick in 2009, so the difference in between the 2nd and 3rd round is 31 picks).

Final note: It is difficult to know which juniors and eligible sophomores to include in the Big Board. Very few underclassmen have stated their intentions, but the list will surely grow with the ending of each bowl game. I have included declared underclassmen, and ones I feel are leaving.

Questions, agitations, fury (I am ready for the Cal fans) is welcome. I'll be happy to explain my rationale for any player. Any problems with format: Ex: Jimmy Clausen, DT, Western Mississippi, please let me know.

Newcomers want to pay special attention to OTC's comments, as he might be the most informed, non-paid draft expert in the galaxy. If he can build a website, he can do some damage.

Cheers.

2010 NFL Draft 100 Big Board
Pick Player School Position
1 Ndamukong Suh Nebraska DT
2 Gerald McCoy Oklahoma DT
3 Russell Okung Oklahoma State OT
4 Eric Berry Tennesseee S
5 Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB
6 Sam Bradford Oklahoma QB
7 Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE
8 Anthony Davis Rutgers OT
9 Joe Haden Florida CB
10 Trent Williams Oklahoma OT
11 Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WR
12 Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida DE
13 CJ Spiller Clemson RB
14 Cameron Heyward Ohio State DT
15 Rolando McClain Alabama LB
16 Carlos Dunlap Florida DE
17 Arrelious Benn Illinois WR
18 Bryan Bulaga Iowa OT
19 Taylor Mays USC S
20 Mike Iupati Idaho OT/G
21 Corey Wooten Northwestern DE
22 Dan Williams Tennessee DT
23 Earl Thomas Texas S
24 Golden Tate Notre Dame WR
25 Navorro Bowman Penn State LB
26 Bruce Campbell Maryland OT
27 Maurkice Pouncey Florida C
28 Brian Price UCLA DT
29 Brandon Graham Michigan DE/OLB
30 Greg Romeus Pitt DE
31 Charles Brown USC OT
32 Terrence Cody Alabama DT
33 Tim Tebow Florida QB
34 Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma TE
35 Tony Pike Cincinnati QB
36 Patrick Robinson Florida State CB
37 Brandon Spikes Florida LB
38 Ryan Matthews Fresno State RB
39 Ricky Sapp Clemson DE
40 Brandon Ghee Wake Forest CB
41 Jared Odrick Penn State DT
42 Austen Lane Murray State DE
43 Jerry Hughes TCU DE
44 Donovan Warren Michigan CB
45 Jahvid Best Cal RB
46 Jordan Shipley Texas WR
47 Perrish Cox Oklahoma State CB
48 Aaron Hernandez Florida TE
49 Brandon LaFell LSU WR
50 Sergio Kindle Texas DE
51 Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RB
52 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri LB
53 Nate Allen South Florida S
54 Jon Asamoah Illinois G
55 Marvin Austin North Carolina DT
56 Colt McCoy Texas QB
57 Arthur Jones Syracuse DT
58 Jeremy Williams Tulane WR
59 Ras-I Dowling Virginia CB
60 Mardy Gilyard Cincinnati WR
61 Mike Pouncey Florida G
62 Toby Gerhart Stanford RB
63 Damian Williams USC WR
64 Tyson Alualu Cal DT
65 Anthony Dixon Mississippi St RB
66 Everson Griffen USC DE
67 Anthony McCoy USC TE
68 Jacoby Ford Clemson WR
69 Dezmon Briscoe Kansas WR
70 Ben Tate Auburn RB
71 Jerome Murphy South Florida CB
72 Lamarr Houston Texas DT
73 Jevan Snead Mississippi QB
74 Robert Johnson Utah S
75 Myron Rolle Florida State S
76 Dexter McCluster Mississippi RB
77 Devin McCourty Rutgers CB
78 Jason Fox Miami OT
79 Eric Decker Minnesota WR
80 Javier Arenas Alabama CB/PR
81 Greg Hardy Mississippi DE
82 Kyle Wilson Boise St CB
83 Kam Chancellor Virginia Tech S
84 Danario Alexander Missouri WR
85 Daryl Washington TCU LB
86 Sean Lee Penn State LB
87 TJ Ward Oregon S
88 Montario Hardesty Tennessee RB
89 Selvish Capers West Virginia OT
90 Eric Norwood South Carolina DE/OLB
91 Mike Neal Purdue DE/DT
92 Syd'Quan Thompson Cal CB
93 Matt Tennant Boston College C
94 Akwasi Owuso-Ansah Stanford CB
95 George Selvie South Florida DE
96 Mike Johnson Alabama G
97 O'Brien Schofield Wisconsin DE
98 Sean Canfield Oregon State QB
99 Darrell Stuckey Kansas S
100 Willie Young NC State DE/OLB

Then, Spiller and Bulaga (starting OG in FA) or Bulaga and Iupati (kick returner in FA), Perrish Cox and Jason Fox.

The crowd would probably enjoy some combination like the ones you listed.
Originally posted by epdavis:
MD do you really think Trevard Lindley will not be a top 100 pick cause that would be some drop from the pre-season projections when he was considered one of if not the best cover corner in this draft.

I really hope I'm wrong with Lindley, since he seems like a great kid. However, he is not nearly the player we saw last year, and I'm not sure if the injury has truly healed, or if he just can't put his game back together. I've really been watching Lindley this year as a prospect for the team, and he just appers very slow on the field, in straightline speed, reacting to players making cuts, etc.

Although Jacoby Ford's TD was only one play, and it is completely unfair to judge someone based on even a handful of plays, I think scouts will see him as a liability in the secondary, and will not grade him as a future starter, but as a nickel or dime back.

I've got him projected early fourth round. He's a 4.53 kid who is probably 5'10", 175-180 pounds, and is coming off a down year. Not a good combo.
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Dec 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM ]
MD, I noticed Ciron Black was missing from your top 100. Do you really not see him as a top 100 pick or is that just an oversight?
Originally posted by GoFD74:
MD, I noticed Ciron Black was missing from your top 100. Do you really not see him as a top 100 pick or is that just an oversight?

I also see him as a fourth rounder. Very slow and lumbering, and is strictly a RT at the next level. He lost a lot of money by returning to school in 2009.

Senior Bowl week will be massive for him. I just think it will be a rough road, and his ability to protect the edge will be exposed.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by GoFD74:
MD, I noticed Ciron Black was missing from your top 100. Do you really not see him as a top 100 pick or is that just an oversight?

I also see him as a fourth rounder. Very slow and lumbering, and is strictly a RT at the next level. He lost a lot of money by returning to school in 2009.

Senior Bowl week will be massive for him. I just think it will be a rough road, and his ability to protect the edge will be exposed.

Fair enough. With the relative success of similar players (Otah and Loadholt), I think some teams might value a guy like Black as a 2nd/3rd rounder, but I can see why you project him as a 4th rounder.
MD:
You have Gilyard in the second round. If we settled the RT/OG OLB process in the first round - Iupati/Graham would you see Gilyard as a speed WR/PR in the second?