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I would love to nab Dexter McCluster in the third round. Assuming we've taken care of our RT,S,QB issue.
Originally posted by GoFD74:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Brian Price has declared: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/12/ucla-football-brian-price-nfl-draft.html

List has been edited to add DT Price.

Love the way Price plays the game....to bad we won't be interested given he's more of a 4-3 DT.

Indeed. If he were miraculously available in the 2nd, which barring some horrific injury, he won't be, otherwise I'm certain we'd nab him to play 3-4 DE.
Hey OnTheClock, what do you think of Wisconsin QB Tolzien?

I don't think he's entering the draft but I really liked what I saw in him in the bowl game against Miami:
1. Pro-style offense
2. Quick release
3. Stands tall under pressure

As a Smith fan, call it the anti-Alex Smith

My one concern about Tolzien could be his arm strength but I only say that because I didn't see him take any shots down the field. Again this is just what I saw from my eyeballs..

-9fA
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Hey OnTheClock, what do you think of Wisconsin QB Tolzien?

I don't think he's entering the draft but I really liked what I saw in him in the bowl game against Miami:
1. Pro-style offense
2. Quick release
3. Stands tall under pressure

As a Smith fan, call it the anti-Alex Smith

My one concern about Tolzien could be his arm strength but I only say that because I didn't see him take any shots down the field. Again this is just what I saw from my eyeballs..

-9fA

I admit I didn't pay much attention to Tolzien last night, as I had my eyes other places, but overall.. He needs to get better when playing top tier competition. The commentators noted he was 0-6 this year facing ranked opponents with some dreadful performances.

Right now, he's just an average QB at best. Hasn't been up near the numbers required to be even a middle-round QB. Despite being in a pro-style offense, he doesn't have big-time size, and as noted, the arm either. A quick release can only get you so far (look at Shaun Hill, UDFA). So right now, even with improvement, I see Tolzien as a late round guy. 6th-UDFA range.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Dec 30, 2009 at 6:09 PM ]
^^ Cheers for your insight.

-9fA
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Icelandic49er:
Glad to see that you don´t rate Brandon LaFell as high as most do.

For the life of me, I've never understood why he is considered a 1st rounder by so many. I have seen absolutely nothing on the field to indicate that. He's been solid, but unspectacular. He's made some good plays from time to time, and sure he has a good combination of size and speed, but LaFell likely is not going to do all that much more than Michael Clayton is doing right now.

LaFell schooled Haden who is considered by many to be one of the top CB prospects in the country. That's one of the reasons he's ranked so high.
Originally posted by smileyman:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Icelandic49er:
Glad to see that you don´t rate Brandon LaFell as high as most do.

For the life of me, I've never understood why he is considered a 1st rounder by so many. I have seen absolutely nothing on the field to indicate that. He's been solid, but unspectacular. He's made some good plays from time to time, and sure he has a good combination of size and speed, but LaFell likely is not going to do all that much more than Michael Clayton is doing right now.

LaFell schooled Haden who is considered by many to be one of the top CB prospects in the country. That's one of the reasons he's ranked so high.

But wasn't that Haden's freshman year? I don't remember LaFell being much of a factor against the Gators this year.
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Originally posted by GoFD74:
Originally posted by smileyman:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Icelandic49er:
Glad to see that you don´t rate Brandon LaFell as high as most do.

For the life of me, I've never understood why he is considered a 1st rounder by so many. I have seen absolutely nothing on the field to indicate that. He's been solid, but unspectacular. He's made some good plays from time to time, and sure he has a good combination of size and speed, but LaFell likely is not going to do all that much more than Michael Clayton is doing right now.

LaFell schooled Haden who is considered by many to be one of the top CB prospects in the country. That's one of the reasons he's ranked so high.

But wasn't that Haden's freshman year? I don't remember LaFell being much of a factor against the Gators this year.

This video is from last year. LaFell would've had a much bigger game if he'd hung on to a couple and if the throws were better but he was open all day long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpLLlAGHGns

This video is from the SEC championship game. You don't see much pass coverage since Alabama ran the ball down Florida's throats all day long but what you do see is a glaring weakness in run support from Haden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObgK4VIFjZM
With Berry declaring, list has been edited again.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4787179
Best to declare: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4790495
People that think McCluster will make it to the third round are smoking crack.
I know he is a middle round guy, but I would like the OG Carter from Texas Tech. I just think our oline could use a d**khead like him.
Originally posted by jta854:
I know he is a middle round guy, but I would like the OG Carter from Texas Tech. I just think our oline could use a d**khead like him.

I wouldn't mind him at all.


FYI, Everybody -- CB Haden Enters Draft: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4792743
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by jta854:
I know he is a middle round guy, but I would like the OG Carter from Texas Tech. I just think our oline could use a d**khead like him.

I wouldn't mind him at all.


FYI, Everybody -- CB Haden Enters Draft: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4792743

Would Iupati at RT and Carter at RG but effective?
Originally posted by jta854:
I know he is a middle round guy, but I would like the OG Carter from Texas Tech. I just think our oline could use a d**khead like him.

yeah our line is too nice, we need an a*****e