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Sam Bradford

please dont let us draft bradford
If he's there, draft him. Alex will never be more than serviceable at best.
Bradford actually reminds me a lot of Smith. He has a decent arm, throws a lot of short passes, plays in the shotgun, and hasn't taken snaps from under center. lol at the people who think he's going to be any different, plus he has shoulder problems already.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Bradford actually reminds me a lot of Smith. He has a decent arm, throws a lot of short passes, plays in the shotgun, and hasn't taken snaps from under center. lol at the people who think he's going to be any different, plus he has shoulder problems already.

There is one big difference Sam Bradford is a very accurate thrower unlike our current QB. He is a far better quarterback than Alex Smith.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Bradford actually reminds me a lot of Smith. He has a decent arm, throws a lot of short passes, plays in the shotgun, and hasn't taken snaps from under center. lol at the people who think he's going to be any different, plus he has shoulder problems already.

There is one big difference Sam Bradford is a very accurate thrower unlike our current QB. He is a far better quarterback than Alex Smith.

Not really. How are you going to say a player that hasn't thrown a ball for more than like 8 quarters in a year is a very accurate thrower? And just like Alex it's easy to be accurate when everything's perfect around you and you have a good OLine and you're going up against inferior schools and you have the best coach in your conference or whatever. Smith completed 65% and 67% of his passes in his last 2 years of school. Bradford in his 2 years was about the same, but 2% higher(69 and 67). You can't really say a guy is that accurate in college and how it will translate to the pros, especially when that player mainly throws dinky little passes.

If anything I want a QB like Sean Canfield in the 3rd or 4th and develop them for a year. We have too many other needs to sit here and wait for a rookie to come in and have a year like Sanchez or Stafford when there are guys on the board who can make an immediate impact. Nate Davis most likely won't do s**t, the FA QBs are guys like injured Pennington and Boller and Campbell(who is nearly the same player as Smith for the most part), and Bradford is coming off of a shoulder injury. Clausen is probably the first pick and the other guys aren't that good.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Bradford actually reminds me a lot of Smith. He has a decent arm, throws a lot of short passes, plays in the shotgun, and hasn't taken snaps from under center. lol at the people who think he's going to be any different, plus he has shoulder problems already.

There is one big difference Sam Bradford is a very accurate thrower unlike our current QB. He is a far better quarterback than Alex Smith.

Not really. How are you going to say a player that hasn't thrown a ball for more than like 8 quarters in a year is a very accurate thrower? And just like Alex it's easy to be accurate when everything's perfect around you and you have a good OLine and you're going up against inferior schools and you have the best coach in your conference or whatever. Smith completed 65% and 67% of his passes in his last 2 years of school. Bradford in his 2 years was about the same, but 2% higher(69 and 67). You can't really say a guy is that accurate in college and how it will translate to the pros, especially when that player mainly throws dinky little passes.

If anything I want a QB like Sean Canfield in the 3rd or 4th and develop them for a year. We have too many other needs to sit here and wait for a rookie to come in and have a year like Sanchez or Stafford when there are guys on the board who can make an immediate impact. Nate Davis most likely won't do s**t, the FA QBs are guys like injured Pennington and Boller and Campbell(who is nearly the same player as Smith for the most part), and Bradford is coming off of a shoulder injury. Clausen is probably the first pick and the other guys aren't that good.

I watched Sam Bradford play live and he was FAR better than Colt McCoy, and though it breaks my heart to say it, he was better than Graham Harrell too.
He was also better than Zach Robinson, better than Jevan Snead, better than that KSU guy that got drafted in the first round ... all guys I saw play live.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Bradford actually reminds me a lot of Smith. He has a decent arm, throws a lot of short passes, plays in the shotgun, and hasn't taken snaps from under center. lol at the people who think he's going to be any different, plus he has shoulder problems already.

There is one big difference Sam Bradford is a very accurate thrower unlike our current QB. He is a far better quarterback than Alex Smith.

Not really. How are you going to say a player that hasn't thrown a ball for more than like 8 quarters in a year is a very accurate thrower? And just like Alex it's easy to be accurate when everything's perfect around you and you have a good OLine and you're going up against inferior schools and you have the best coach in your conference or whatever. Smith completed 65% and 67% of his passes in his last 2 years of school. Bradford in his 2 years was about the same, but 2% higher(69 and 67). You can't really say a guy is that accurate in college and how it will translate to the pros, especially when that player mainly throws dinky little passes.

If anything I want a QB like Sean Canfield in the 3rd or 4th and develop them for a year. We have too many other needs to sit here and wait for a rookie to come in and have a year like Sanchez or Stafford when there are guys on the board who can make an immediate impact. Nate Davis most likely won't do s**t, the FA QBs are guys like injured Pennington and Boller and Campbell(who is nearly the same player as Smith for the most part), and Bradford is coming off of a shoulder injury. Clausen is probably the first pick and the other guys aren't that good.

I can say he is an accurate thrower because I saw him play several times last year and he would have probably been the first player taken in the draft. So.. if you want to say we cant say he is accurate because he was hurt this year... well that is just ridiculous. He will be a much better player than Smith. I would bet the ranch on it.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Bradford actually reminds me a lot of Smith. He has a decent arm, throws a lot of short passes, plays in the shotgun, and hasn't taken snaps from under center. lol at the people who think he's going to be any different, plus he has shoulder problems already.

There is one big difference Sam Bradford is a very accurate thrower unlike our current QB. He is a far better quarterback than Alex Smith.

Not really. How are you going to say a player that hasn't thrown a ball for more than like 8 quarters in a year is a very accurate thrower? And just like Alex it's easy to be accurate when everything's perfect around you and you have a good OLine and you're going up against inferior schools and you have the best coach in your conference or whatever. Smith completed 65% and 67% of his passes in his last 2 years of school. Bradford in his 2 years was about the same, but 2% higher(69 and 67). You can't really say a guy is that accurate in college and how it will translate to the pros, especially when that player mainly throws dinky little passes.

If anything I want a QB like Sean Canfield in the 3rd or 4th and develop them for a year. We have too many other needs to sit here and wait for a rookie to come in and have a year like Sanchez or Stafford when there are guys on the board who can make an immediate impact. Nate Davis most likely won't do s**t, the FA QBs are guys like injured Pennington and Boller and Campbell(who is nearly the same player as Smith for the most part), and Bradford is coming off of a shoulder injury. Clausen is probably the first pick and the other guys aren't that good.

I can say he is an accurate thrower because I saw him play several times last year and he would have probably been the first player taken in the draft. So.. if you want to say we cant say he is accurate because he was hurt this year... well that is just ridiculous. He will be a much better player than Smith. I would bet the ranch on it.


Whatever bro I'm not saying he won't be good but he has a lot of similarities to Smith and I've seen him play a bunch of times and I'm not impressed as everyone else so whatever. Agree to disagree I guess.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Bradford actually reminds me a lot of Smith. He has a decent arm, throws a lot of short passes, plays in the shotgun, and hasn't taken snaps from under center. lol at the people who think he's going to be any different, plus he has shoulder problems already.

There is one big difference Sam Bradford is a very accurate thrower unlike our current QB. He is a far better quarterback than Alex Smith.

Not really. How are you going to say a player that hasn't thrown a ball for more than like 8 quarters in a year is a very accurate thrower? And just like Alex it's easy to be accurate when everything's perfect around you and you have a good OLine and you're going up against inferior schools and you have the best coach in your conference or whatever. Smith completed 65% and 67% of his passes in his last 2 years of school. Bradford in his 2 years was about the same, but 2% higher(69 and 67). You can't really say a guy is that accurate in college and how it will translate to the pros, especially when that player mainly throws dinky little passes.

If anything I want a QB like Sean Canfield in the 3rd or 4th and develop them for a year. We have too many other needs to sit here and wait for a rookie to come in and have a year like Sanchez or Stafford when there are guys on the board who can make an immediate impact. Nate Davis most likely won't do s**t, the FA QBs are guys like injured Pennington and Boller and Campbell(who is nearly the same player as Smith for the most part), and Bradford is coming off of a shoulder injury. Clausen is probably the first pick and the other guys aren't that good.

I can say he is an accurate thrower because I saw him play several times last year and he would have probably been the first player taken in the draft. So.. if you want to say we cant say he is accurate because he was hurt this year... well that is just ridiculous. He will be a much better player than Smith. I would bet the ranch on it.


Whatever bro I'm not saying he won't be good but he has a lot of similarities to Smith and I've seen him play a bunch of times and I'm not impressed as everyone else so whatever. Agree to disagree I guess.

Perhaps we can agree on one thing, guys. We put him behind our O line as it stands and he will stink.
The top 2 QBs in this draft: Bradford and Clausen remind me so much of Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers respectively coming out in '05.

Stay away from Bradford. Josh Heupel, Jason White, Nate Hybl were all productive under Bob Stoops and his Spread.

Clausen was and still should be the top QB in this draft. The only guy who was going to challenge him for the top spot was Locker but that only because Locker was a freak of an athlete. Clausen had proven to have the better arm. Plus, he played under a NFL-style offense.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
After todays game I am back on the Bradford bandwagon should he be available. I think its clear Smith will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land.

I apologize, but this post exemplifies the problem with most of our fans.

Why the extreme reaction after one game? How on earth can you say "I think it's clear Smith will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land" ? Why the heck not? There have been games this year when he was pretty much the only one making anything happen on offense. But now, after a rough game with (gasp!) Three Interceptions (everyone knows that a good QB NEVER has that sort of game) now we can say that it's clear that he will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land.

Alex Smith has shown himself to be a toughminded, accurate quarterback with above average physical tools.

Yes, I said accurate. Not exceptionally accurate, but accurate.

Unfortunately, as fans we seem to over obsess with the 3 or 4 throws a game that are a little bit off. But let me ask you - have you noticed the 3 or 4 throws a game that the opposing QB has been a little bit off? Donovan had a good 5 or 6 this past game. Peyton had at least as many when we played the Colts. Are they inaccurate?

And on top of those traits, Alex is growing in his areas of weakness and is becoming more of a leader on this team.

If he showed anything this past week, it was that he was trying too hard to force this team to be better than it is right now.

We need to improve as a team. I like Sam Bradford, but if we draft him and put him back there - our team will not be any better than it is with Alex Smith.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
please dont let us draft bradford
Originally posted by wadjay:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
After todays game I am back on the Bradford bandwagon should he be available. I think its clear Smith will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land.

I apologize, but this post exemplifies the problem with most of our fans.

Why the extreme reaction after one game? How on earth can you say "I think it's clear Smith will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land" ? Why the heck not? There have been games this year when he was pretty much the only one making anything happen on offense. But now, after a rough game with (gasp!) Three Interceptions (everyone knows that a good QB NEVER has that sort of game) now we can say that it's clear that he will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land.

Alex Smith has shown himself to be a toughminded, accurate quarterback with above average physical tools.

Yes, I said accurate. Not exceptionally accurate, but accurate.

Unfortunately, as fans we seem to over obsess with the 3 or 4 throws a game that are a little bit off. But let me ask you - have you noticed the 3 or 4 throws a game that the opposing QB has been a little bit off? Donovan had a good 5 or 6 this past game. Peyton had at least as many when we played the Colts. Are they inaccurate?

And on top of those traits, Alex is growing in his areas of weakness and is becoming more of a leader on this team.

If he showed anything this past week, it was that he was trying too hard to force this team to be better than it is right now.

We need to improve as a team. I like Sam Bradford, but if we draft him and put him back there - our team will not be any better than it is with Alex Smith.

Umm.. ok. If you think Alex Smith is an accurate passer then we will just have a difference of opinion. Out of the pocket he isnt too bad. On the run he isn't acurate at all.

I dont think its a "problem" as you put it to want much better QB play and to expect it. Now, I do believe he is better than Shaun Hill and should be the starter. If we dont get a better QB for next year than he should still start. I just do not believe Alex Smith is going to be the QB that leads this team to the playoffs.

We have a LOT of holes on this team and QB is one of them in my opinion. If there was an elite college QB that fell to the Niners I think it would be foolish to pass. Now, maybe Sam Bradford isnt that guy and maybe its stupid to pass on other key positions. I can buy that. However, it doesnt change the fact that Smith is terribly erratic at the most important postion on the field.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by wadjay:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
After todays game I am back on the Bradford bandwagon should he be available. I think its clear Smith will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land.

I apologize, but this post exemplifies the problem with most of our fans.

Why the extreme reaction after one game? How on earth can you say "I think it's clear Smith will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land" ? Why the heck not? There have been games this year when he was pretty much the only one making anything happen on offense. But now, after a rough game with (gasp!) Three Interceptions (everyone knows that a good QB NEVER has that sort of game) now we can say that it's clear that he will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land.

Alex Smith has shown himself to be a toughminded, accurate quarterback with above average physical tools.

Yes, I said accurate. Not exceptionally accurate, but accurate.

Unfortunately, as fans we seem to over obsess with the 3 or 4 throws a game that are a little bit off. But let me ask you - have you noticed the 3 or 4 throws a game that the opposing QB has been a little bit off? Donovan had a good 5 or 6 this past game. Peyton had at least as many when we played the Colts. Are they inaccurate?

And on top of those traits, Alex is growing in his areas of weakness and is becoming more of a leader on this team.

If he showed anything this past week, it was that he was trying too hard to force this team to be better than it is right now.

We need to improve as a team. I like Sam Bradford, but if we draft him and put him back there - our team will not be any better than it is with Alex Smith.

Umm.. ok. If you think Alex Smith is an accurate passer then we will just have a difference of opinion. Out of the pocket he isnt too bad. On the run he isn't acurate at all.

I dont think its a "problem" as you put it to want much better QB play and to expect it. Now, I do believe he is better than Shaun Hill and should be the starter. If we dont get a better QB for next year than he should still start. I just do not believe Alex Smith is going to be the QB that leads this team to the playoffs.

We have a LOT of holes on this team and QB is one of them in my opinion. If there was an elite college QB that fell to the Niners I think it would be foolish to pass. Now, maybe Sam Bradford isnt that guy and maybe its stupid to pass on other key positions. I can buy that. However, it doesnt change the fact that Smith is terribly erratic at the most important postion on the field.

I apologize if I came over as too harsh. I realize we may have a difference of opinion on the quality of Alex Smith - that's to be expected. What bothers me about our fans in general is the incredible sway in opinions from one week to the next, one week falling in love with a player, the next week kicking him to the curb.

That may or may not apply to you, it simply bothered me that it sounded like your opinion of Alex Smith came primarily as a reaction to just this week's poor performance.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
After todays game I am back on the Bradford bandwagon should he be available. I think its clear Smith will never be a QB that is going to take us to the promised land.

Anyway, I'm done hi-jacking this thread now. My opinion is this - I like Sam Bradford, but I think we'd be very foolish to draft him given our team's current situation.
got hurt twice in games this year.

There, I finished the sentence for you.