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My First Round Mock:

Pick 1: Joe Haden
Pick 2: Golden Tate

...Sign a OG in the off-season and draft an RT in round 2.
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interesting, but I wouldn't take Golden Tate seeing how Dez Bryant might be available still when we pick(may or may not)

regardless I'd take a OT with that pick because it's more of a need right now
Originally posted by ptinerocket:
interesting, but I wouldn't take Golden Tate seeing how Dez Bryant might be available still when we pick(may or may not)

regardless I'd take a OT with that pick because it's more of a need right now

I like tate we have way bigger needs like OLINE
horrible 2nd pick
We DO NOT need a WR, especially with one of our 1st round picks.
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
We DO NOT need a WR, especially with one of our 1st round picks.

this.

u guys gotta be insane if you actually think we'll take a WR with one of our first two picks.
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
We DO NOT need a WR, especially with one of our 1st round picks.

this.

u guys gotta be insane if you actually think we'll take a WR with one of our first two picks.

And if they did the last name would end in Bryant, not Tate.
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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
We DO NOT need a WR, especially with one of our 1st round picks.

this.

u guys gotta be insane if you actually think we'll take a WR with one of our first two picks.

Do we need to improve team speed ? Yes.

Do we need a vertical threat ? Yes.

Do we need a KR/PR ? Yes.

If we are going to run a spread style offense, do we need to improve the talent around Smith ? Yes.

Does Golden Tate possess these attribute ? Yes.

B-P-A. If Tate is there and is the BPA we'd better take him, it would be in our best interests.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
We DO NOT need a WR, especially with one of our 1st round picks.

this.

u guys gotta be insane if you actually think we'll take a WR with one of our first two picks.

Do we need to improve team speed ? Yes.

Do we need a vertical threat ? Yes.

Do we need a KR/PR ? Yes.

If we are going to run a spread style offense, do we need to improve the talent around Smith ? Yes.

Does Golden Tate possess these attribute ? Yes.

B-P-A. If Tate is there and is the BPA we'd better take him, it would be in our best interests.

Do we need better pass blocking at RT? Yes.

Do we need better run blocking at RT? Yes.

Is Adam Snyder the long-term answer at RT? No.

Will we draft an OT with a first round pick? Yes.

Do we need to draft a CB capable of improving the NFL's 26th ranked pass defense? Yes.

Is upgrading our pass defense at CB/S a greater need then upgrading at wide receiver? Yes.

Did we already use a first round pick on a WR last year? Yes.

Is that first round pick a bust? No.

Is WR as big a need as it was last year? No.

Did the Lions do well by constantly using first round picks on WRs? No.

Do we write off Jason Hill and Brandon Jones as non-contributers and incapable of providing a downfield passing threat? No.

Will we miss out on a good KR/PR by not using a first rounder on such a player? Was Devin Hester a first round pick.

Are we going to a spread style offense exclusively? No.

Do we need 10 WRs on our roster? No.
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Originally posted by 49ersfan80:
Do we need better pass blocking at RT? Yes.

Do we need better run blocking at RT? Yes.

Is Adam Snyder the long-term answer at RT? No.

Will we draft an OT with a first round pick? Yes.

I wouldn't go as far as to say we will draft an OT in round 1. It all depends on who will be available to us when we pick. But we will address the OL via the draft and FA.

Quote:
Do we need to draft a CB capable of improving the NFL's 26th ranked pass defense? Yes.

Is upgrading our pass defense at CB/S a greater need then upgrading at wide receiver? Yes.

An improved and more consistent pass rush would make the secondary look a lot better than they do. Again we will likely add to the secondary however it may come via FA and not the draft or possibly vice versa.


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Did we already use a first round pick on a WR last year? Yes.

Is that first round pick a bust? No.

Is WR as big a need as it was last year? No.

Did the Lions do well by constantly using first round picks on WRs? No.

Do we write off Jason Hill and Brandon Jones as non-contributers and incapable of providing a downfield passing threat? No.

Will we miss out on a good KR/PR by not using a first rounder on such a player? Was Devin Hester a first round pick.

Are we going to a spread style offense exclusively? No.

Do we need 10 WRs on our roster? No.

We are not the Detroit Lions, we are the San Francisco 49ers. Tate can be used in the wildcat as well and with an improved and re-tooled line we may try to use that formation again as well.

As far as being a spread offense, it would be in our best interest. It's the offense that best fits the QB, and why try and make the QB fit the system....we should try and fit the system to the QB's skill set (like NO, Indy, NE, Pitt...all teams that have QB's that excel in the pass game and have invested into upgrading the WR talent to help the QB succeed).

Brandon Jones has never proven to be more than a #3-4 and he likely never will. Jason Hill has earned little playing time, when he is on the field he has looked like nothing more than a #3-4 and has never shown the ability to be a true vertical threat. Josh Morgan has yet to show he truly deserves to be the #2 on this team. Competition = good thing, brings out the best in all players. Brandon Jones should be cut in the offseason, terrible signing. Has not earned his paycheck when healthy, he has not earned more PT and their have been opportunities to get more PT (Morgan surpassed Bruce).

Devin Hester would have been drafted higher had he had a position coming out of college, no one knew if he was a CB,WR or a RB. Tate is a WR.
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Originally posted by 49ersfan80:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
We DO NOT need a WR, especially with one of our 1st round picks.

this.

u guys gotta be insane if you actually think we'll take a WR with one of our first two picks.

Do we need to improve team speed ? Yes.

Do we need a vertical threat ? Yes.

Do we need a KR/PR ? Yes.

If we are going to run a spread style offense, do we need to improve the talent around Smith ? Yes.

Does Golden Tate possess these attribute ? Yes.

B-P-A. If Tate is there and is the BPA we'd better take him, it would be in our best interests.

Do we need better pass blocking at RT? Yes.

Do we need better run blocking at RT? Yes.

Is Adam Snyder the long-term answer at RT? No.

Will we draft an OT with a first round pick? Yes.

Do we need to draft a CB capable of improving the NFL's 26th ranked pass defense? Yes.

Is upgrading our pass defense at CB/S a greater need then upgrading at wide receiver? Yes.

Did we already use a first round pick on a WR last year? Yes.

Is that first round pick a bust? No.

Is WR as big a need as it was last year? No.

Did the Lions do well by constantly using first round picks on WRs? No.

Do we write off Jason Hill and Brandon Jones as non-contributers and incapable of providing a downfield passing threat? No.

Will we miss out on a good KR/PR by not using a first rounder on such a player? Was Devin Hester a first round pick.

Are we going to a spread style offense exclusively? No.

Do we need 10 WRs on our roster? No.

Is this post full of win? Yes
Originally posted by valrod33:
horrible 2nd pick
Originally posted by valrod33:
horrible 2nd pick

Terrible. At least Dez Bryant can be argued to be BPA if he's the pick. Tate? no thanks.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by valrod33:
horrible 2nd pick

Terrible. At least Dez Bryant can be argued to be BPA if he's the pick. Tate? no thanks.

Well if we make it to the playoffs and win a game or 2 Tate would be good at about 26.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
We DO NOT need a WR, especially with one of our 1st round picks.

this.

u guys gotta be insane if you actually think we'll take a WR with one of our first two picks.

Do we need to improve team speed ? Yes.

Do we need a vertical threat ? Yes.

Do we need a KR/PR ? Yes.

If we are going to run a spread style offense, do we need to improve the talent around Smith ? Yes.

Does Golden Tate possess these attribute ? Yes.

B-P-A. If Tate is there and is the BPA we'd better take him, it would be in our best interests.

Tell us, what is Tate's speed?
Has he ran a 40 yet?
How many good college WR's bust out in the pro's?
What is Tate's size?
What is his projected round?

You are thinking using a mid- high 1st round pick on this guy? Seriously?

[ Edited by kronik on Dec 18, 2009 at 21:44:32 ]
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