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Name to Know: Joique Bell, The Best DII Player in the Nation
Dec 13, 2009 at 7:35 PM
- Giggiddy
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Dec 13, 2009 at 7:50 PM
- strickac
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Most likley... UDFA
Dec 13, 2009 at 8:32 PM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by strickac:
Most likley... UDFA
Barring injury, a team will take a chance in the 7th at the very least.
Getting compared to Walter Payton is no small feat.
Unlike former DII Harlon Hill Trophy winner, Danny Woodhead, who is a mere 5-7 195, Bell has NFL size and all-around ability, making him far more valuable. Plus Woodhead lost some interest by scouts when he was shut down in the DII Championship, limited to 16 yards, by Northwest Missouri St.
Some good players have been coming out of DII schools lately, specifically Abilene Christian. Bernard Scott would have been drafted much sooner if it hadn't been for his character concerns. Scott won the Harlon Hill trophy in 2008.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Dec 13, 2009 at 20:34:39 ]
Dec 14, 2009 at 7:07 AM
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I don't doubt that he's a good prospect or that he'll land with a team in the NFL. Though, these DII guys are hard pressed to get drafted. I think the level of competition is something the scouts can't really get past and with good reason because who knows how Bell would fair against a defense like Florida or Alabama.
Just last year Rashad Jennings was thought to have 2-3rd Rd talent, with excellent size; however, he was barely drafted (end of the 7th). The odds are against him.
Just last year Rashad Jennings was thought to have 2-3rd Rd talent, with excellent size; however, he was barely drafted (end of the 7th). The odds are against him.
Dec 14, 2009 at 8:08 AM
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I've seen him play. My cousin played for Hillsdale College and had his career day against Wayne St
Jan 2, 2010 at 1:17 PM
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For those who don't know.. Joique Bell will be playing in the Under Armour Senior Bowl.
Jan 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
For those who don't know.. Joique Bell will be playing in the Under Armour Senior Bowl.
I'm looking forward to that game. Some seniors I'd love to see play against the so called best of the best.
I'll be paying very close attention to how Jerry Hughes does. Would like to see McCluster take some returns along with this kid.
Jan 2, 2010 at 7:10 PM
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Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by OnTheClock:
For those who don't know.. Joique Bell will be playing in the Under Armour Senior Bowl.
I'm looking forward to that game. Some seniors I'd love to see play against the so called best of the best.
I'll be paying very close attention to how Jerry Hughes does. Would like to see McCluster take some returns along with this kid.
I'd be interested to see if he can indeed return.
As for Bell -- The kid will be drafted. Far too talented and if you tack on the measurables he has, you know it's going to happen. Bell has hired a trainer to help even further improve his 40-time. He says he's run in the 4.4's before and I expect him to do so at the Combine.
Yes, Bell is going to be at the Combine too.
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:32 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by OnTheClock:
For those who don't know.. Joique Bell will be playing in the Under Armour Senior Bowl.
I'm looking forward to that game. Some seniors I'd love to see play against the so called best of the best.
I'll be paying very close attention to how Jerry Hughes does. Would like to see McCluster take some returns along with this kid.
I'd be interested to see if he can indeed return.
As for Bell -- The kid will be drafted. Far too talented and if you tack on the measurables he has, you know it's going to happen. Bell has hired a trainer to help even further improve his 40-time. He says he's run in the 4.4's before and I expect him to do so at the Combine.
Yes, Bell is going to be at the Combine too.
If he's getting this much attention and he performs as well as you think, he'll move up into at least the 4th rounds. I think Josh Johnson from SD last year went in the 5th?
Then again, if he's as good as you think, I'd take him with a 4th-5th. We need a KR.
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:40 PM
- mcbaes72
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
As I was compiling my next mock, writing up the report on Joique Bell, I figured I'd share this information with you now rather than make you all wait to read it in the next mock. So without further adue, here's the write-up.
Joique Bell-RB/KR-Wayne State, 5-11 224 4.54
Get ready, I'm going to tell you a lot about this kid. A small schooler, absolutely, but likely the best DII prospect in the nation. We should absolutely give Bell a shot if he's available late. Spending the pick on him is extremely low risk, but the reward could be astronomical. Bell, a two-time 2000 yard rusher, has won multiple awards with all-regional, multiple 1st team all-conference, and multiple AFCA All-American honors among others. This year he tacks on yet another award, winning the Harlon Hill Trophy, which goes to the nation's best DII player -- and he certainly deserved it. He's been selected to play in the Texas vs. Nation all star game and if he stars there his stock may jump up a little. With the numbers he has put up, he will most certainly be drafted. Oh and by the way, he has KR/PR experience. Bell has been unbelievably good, garnering attention everywhere. Few DII prospects are as popular on YouTube. And from ESPN to Youtube, you'll find much on Joique Bell. There are a lot of guys out there who make it big in the NFL, despite going late or undrafted -- just look at Pierre Thomas, who has made Reggie Bush expendable. Clips for Bell here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNMt1ZzJ3Q - Highlights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHQ4EvRrGX4 - ESPN Coverage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cOboBsqTvY&feature=related - More footage.
What are his numbers? See them below, for all of his seasons.
2009: 2084 rush yards and 29 TDs. 293 receiving yards, 3 TDs.
2008: 1152 rush yards and 12 TDs. 226 receiving yards, 1 TD.
2007: 1427 rush yards and 25 TDs. 230 receiving yards, 3 TDs.
2006: 2065 rush yards and 22 TDs. 169 receiving yards, 1 TD. -- As a redshirt freshman, that's amazing.
Ladies and gents, someone is going to get a heck of a player this April when they draft Bell.
At 1:17 in the first link, did he catch up and tackle the guy after a turnover or was that ST? Either way, the kid has some speed to go along w/ size. Impressive.
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM
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That's like being the best generic cereal.
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:54 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by strickac:
Most likley... UDFA
Barring injury, a team will take a chance in the 7th at the very least.
Getting compared to Walter Payton is no small feat.
Unlike former DII Harlon Hill Trophy winner, Danny Woodhead, who is a mere 5-7 195, Bell has NFL size and all-around ability, making him far more valuable. Plus Woodhead lost some interest by scouts when he was shut down in the DII Championship, limited to 16 yards, by Northwest Missouri St.
Some good players have been coming out of DII schools lately, specifically Abilene Christian. Bernard Scott would have been drafted much sooner if it hadn't been for his character concerns. Scott won the Harlon Hill trophy in 2008.
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12/26/2009 - "Basically I have to have a good Senior Bowl and do well at the NFL Combine a month later," Bell said this week. "Hopefully, I can get into the top 10. If I can prove I have what it takes to play at any level, my stock will shoot up." Bell was automatically invited to the Senior Bowl as the Harlon Hill Award winner. Bell feels the key to his success at the combine will be improving his 40-yard dash time, currently listed at 4.54. "I've run 4.4's before, but that time listed on most internet sites is a combination of times," explained Bell, who has hired an agent (Manville Trice) and a personal trainer (Thomas Weatherspoon) to help prepare him for what lies ahead. "I'll be headed out to California in early January to work out at my trainer's place there," added Bell. "He's going to have me run in the mountains. That's going to be a killer. But I've been working out every day and will continue to do so. I want to be in the best shape possible for the Senior Bowl and combine. "My trainer has been to the combine before and he's going to have me doing all the combine drills," Bell said. "I have a squeaky-clean background, and will have graduated (criminal justice major). Pro scouts like those attributes." How high up in the draft can Bell go? "Nobody really knows for sure, but if everything goes well I've been told I could go as high as the third round," said Bell. "Anything higher than that would be a real blessing." - AL Arend, Herald Palladium
Jan 2, 2010 at 9:10 PM
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Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by strickac:
Most likley... UDFA
Barring injury, a team will take a chance in the 7th at the very least.
Getting compared to Walter Payton is no small feat.
Unlike former DII Harlon Hill Trophy winner, Danny Woodhead, who is a mere 5-7 195, Bell has NFL size and all-around ability, making him far more valuable. Plus Woodhead lost some interest by scouts when he was shut down in the DII Championship, limited to 16 yards, by Northwest Missouri St.
Some good players have been coming out of DII schools lately, specifically Abilene Christian. Bernard Scott would have been drafted much sooner if it hadn't been for his character concerns. Scott won the Harlon Hill trophy in 2008.
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12/26/2009 - "Basically I have to have a good Senior Bowl and do well at the NFL Combine a month later," Bell said this week. "Hopefully, I can get into the top 10. If I can prove I have what it takes to play at any level, my stock will shoot up." Bell was automatically invited to the Senior Bowl as the Harlon Hill Award winner. Bell feels the key to his success at the combine will be improving his 40-yard dash time, currently listed at 4.54. "I've run 4.4's before, but that time listed on most internet sites is a combination of times," explained Bell, who has hired an agent (Manville Trice) and a personal trainer (Thomas Weatherspoon) to help prepare him for what lies ahead. "I'll be headed out to California in early January to work out at my trainer's place there," added Bell. "He's going to have me run in the mountains. That's going to be a killer. But I've been working out every day and will continue to do so. I want to be in the best shape possible for the Senior Bowl and combine. "My trainer has been to the combine before and he's going to have me doing all the combine drills," Bell said. "I have a squeaky-clean background, and will have graduated (criminal justice major). Pro scouts like those attributes." How high up in the draft can Bell go? "Nobody really knows for sure, but if everything goes well I've been told I could go as high as the third round," said Bell. "Anything higher than that would be a real blessing." - AL Arend, Herald Palladium
3rd round was about Rashad Jennings' ceiling as well. Bell could go anywhere from the late 3rd to the 7th, but he will most certainly be drafted.
Jan 24, 2010 at 6:27 PM
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Having watched Joique play all 44 of his collegiate games, I wanted to let you know some more about him. He had five different starting quarterbacks in his four seasons with more than half of the games (26-of-44) being started by a true freshman or a redshirt freshman signal caller. Up until the season finale this year, the Wayne State quarterbacks were averaging less than 130 yards passing a game, while Joique was averaging over 180 yards a game rushing. His numbers were down his junior year due to an injury for which he had surgery in November 2008. He can to camp last August in the best shape of his collegiate career. In terms of the you tube play from the game at Indianapolis. It came on a two-point conversion in the second quarter with his team trailing 14-12. That play pretty much describes Joique's desire and determination. On one of his you tube videos is a 45-yard TD reception against Ashland (purple and yellow team). This TD catch came in the final minute and snapped a 40-40 tie. It was his sixth TD of the game (after five rushing scores). For his complete collegiate bio go to http://wsuathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1549&path=football
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Jan 24, 2010 at 8:59 PM
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Dude has some great vision and awareness, you can tell from the cuts he makes. I'll save judgment for Senior Bowl, if he is truley going to play.