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How high of a pick to invest in a KR/PR?

What is the highest draft pick you would invest in a return specialist?
Depends on his other duties....Dez Bryant for instance is a WR first KR second.....Bryant will be a top 15 pick.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Depends on his other duties....Dez Bryant for instance is a WR first KR second.....Bryant will be a top 15 pick.

But how many returners are actually starters in the NFL?
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Depends on his other duties....Dez Bryant for instance is a WR first KR second.....Bryant will be a top 15 pick.

But how many returners are actually starters in the NFL?

Actually a decent amount:

Harvin
Knox
Ginn
Jones
Cribs
Hester
Sproles
Washington
Royal
Crayton
Jackson
Bess
Welker
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Depends on his other duties....Dez Bryant for instance is a WR first KR second.....Bryant will be a top 15 pick.

But how many returners are actually starters in the NFL?

Actually a decent amount:

Harvin
Knox
Ginn
Jones
Cribs
Hester
Sproles
Washington
Royal
Crayton
Jackson
Bess
Welker

Dont see many starters there, mostly #3 wrs. But out of those guys most of them were drafted late. I dont think we should invest a high pick in a returner. I would say Bryant in the first is out of the question!
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Depends on his other duties....Dez Bryant for instance is a WR first KR second.....Bryant will be a top 15 pick.

But how many returners are actually starters in the NFL?

Actually a decent amount:

Harvin
Knox
Ginn
Jones
Cribs
Hester
Sproles
Washington
Royal
Crayton
Jackson
Bess
Welker

Dont see many starters there, mostly #3 wrs. But out of those guys most of them were drafted late. I dont think we should invest a high pick in a returner. I would say Bryant in the first is out of the question!

Almost all of those guys are starters, just because they play in the slot for instance doesn't mean they don't start.
However we get a quality KR/PR we need him. One third of our team is functioning at significant loss of capapcity without one. We, of all teams, know the value of just simply being able to catch the ball, none the less to run it back. But we need significant help there. We need all three phases of our team operating at maximum capacity.
Dez Bryant or CJ Spiller please.....fills 2 areas of need. A legit starting WR/KR/PR or a starting RB/KR/PR (if Gore goes down)
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Depends on his other duties....Dez Bryant for instance is a WR first KR second.....Bryant will be a top 15 pick.

But how many returners are actually starters in the NFL?

Actually a decent amount:

Harvin
Knox
Ginn
Jones
Cribs
Hester
Sproles
Washington
Royal
Crayton
Jackson
Bess
Welker

Dont see many starters there, mostly #3 wrs. But out of those guys most of them were drafted late. I dont think we should invest a high pick in a returner. I would say Bryant in the first is out of the question!

Almost all of those guys are starters, just because they play in the slot for instance doesn't mean they don't start.

Actually it does mean that. This is Davone Bess and he leads Mia in recieving.


Look at the games started (0).... http://www.nfl.com/players/davonebess/profile?id=BES106788

Only 2 wrs get the start per NFL team!
[ Edited by MadMartz on Dec 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM ]
Originally posted by genz22:
Dez Bryant or CJ Spiller please.....fills 2 areas of need. A legit starting WR/KR/PR or a starting RB/KR/PR (if Gore goes down)

if you get a special talent like bryant or spiller, do you really want to expose them to the risk of injury by returning kicks....gaints had an all star d-back in jason sehorn a few years back and they had him returning kickoffs in an exhibition game and he tore his acl...never was the same player

you can find decent kick returners lower in the draft
We used a 3rd rounder for Brandon Williams and it didn't work out! We should use our 2nd rounder... no... OUR FIRST ROUNDER for a KR/PR, ala Dexter Carter!
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Depends on his other duties....Dez Bryant for instance is a WR first KR second.....Bryant will be a top 15 pick.

But how many returners are actually starters in the NFL?

Actually a decent amount:

Harvin
Knox
Ginn
Jones
Cribs
Hester
Sproles
Washington
Royal
Crayton
Jackson
Bess
Welker

Dont see many starters there, mostly #3 wrs. But out of those guys most of them were drafted late. I dont think we should invest a high pick in a returner. I would say Bryant in the first is out of the question!


I see about 6 on that list that would be at least 2s.
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
We used a 3rd rounder for Brandon Williams and it didn't work out! We should use our 2nd rounder... no... OUR FIRST ROUNDER for a KR/PR, ala Dexter Carter!

Ahead of RT,OLB, and FS? No way!
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
We used a 3rd rounder for Brandon Williams and it didn't work out! We should use our 2nd rounder... no... OUR FIRST ROUNDER for a KR/PR, ala Dexter Carter!

Ahead of RT,OLB, and FS? No way!

I was kidding. I hated the Dexter Carter pick.
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Originally posted by MadMartz:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
We used a 3rd rounder for Brandon Williams and it didn't work out! We should use our 2nd rounder... no... OUR FIRST ROUNDER for a KR/PR, ala Dexter Carter!

Ahead of RT,OLB, and FS? No way!

I was kidding. I hated the Dexter Carter pick.

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