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I realize O-line is among our biggest concerns, but beyond Russell Okung, it's hard for me to see an offensive lineman worthy of a top 15 pick, especially when we have so many other spots in our team worthy of upgrades. I really don't think Trent Williams is as good as people say he is.


1. CLE (1-9) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska. Suh is arguably the best player on the board, and Shaun Rogers is aging in Cleveland. To be honest, you can't blame it all on Quinn for Cleveland's offensive woes, especially when they got rid of both Winslow and Edwards. Their best offensive weapon is Cribbs, a KR/PR. I would expect them to trade down for better value and select an offensive player such as Dez Bryant or Spiller.

2. STL (1-9) - Jimmy Clausen, QB. Marc Bulger is not the answer and they need a franchise signal caller. Clausen is arguably the most pro ready QB available, and the Rams will take him.

3. TB(1-9) - Gerald McCoy, DT. An elite Defensive Tackle, he can penetrate at will. TB built its defense on an elite defensive interior during its Championship years, and McCoy has potential to be a defensive cornerstone.

4. Detroit (2-8) - Russell Okung, OT. Matthew Stafford has already suffered several injuries, and considering what Detroit has invested in him, they will need to invest in some serious protection. Okung is the cream of the O-line crop, and a candidate to protect Stafford's blind side.

5. Seattle (3-7) - Eric Berry, DB. Seattle has had among the slower safeties, and Eric Berry is also clearly the best player available. A frightening playmaker in Tennessee's secondary, Berry has potential to play any position in the secondary. A top flight running back or QB wouldn't be out of the question, but at #5, Berry is the pick.

6. Washington (3-7) - Jake Locker, QB. It seems the Jason Campbell experience is coming to an end along with the Jim Zorn era. In my mind, Campbell is far from the problem, but that's irrelevant. Locker is the most physically gifted QB, but still very raw.

7. Buffalo (3-7) - Sam Bradford, QB. Fitzpatrick is not the future. Edwards is not the future. Losman was not the future. Clearly, Buffalo is in need of a QB. Bradford doesn't have a cannon arm, which is probably a necessity to throw in Buffalo, but that won't stop the Bills. On the other hand, Bradford is smart, has a quick release, and is accurate. As long as he checks out medically, Bradford is likely a top 15 pick.

8. Oakland (3-7) - Carlos Dunlap, DE. A physical freak, Dunlap is 6'6" at 290 pounds and reportedly runs a sub 4.7. Al Davis loves workout warriors, and Dunlap is no different. Despite concerns about his productivity, Dunlap has recorded 6.5 sacks for year facing constant double teams, and has likely only scratched the surface of his potential. A QB is also a possibility (Jake Locker?)

9. Kansas City (3-7) - Dez Bryant, WR. KC is in search of some serious weapons, and Dez Bryant is the best offensive player available on the board. Dwayne Bowe is their only legit weapon and the Chiefs could desperately use some talent opposite Bowe. Although suspended for violations, it's clear that the NCAA was far too harsh on Bryant, and as long as he stays in shape, he's a lock for the 1st round.

10. Denver f/CHI (4-6) - Rolando McClain, LB. Mike Nolan has totally changed this defense into a decent unit, but it still lacks talent from the inside out. Having picked Patrick Willis in SF, Nolan knows the value of a stud inside LB. McDaniels is also certainly aware of a certain Jerod Mayo in NE. McClain possesses great size and speed and is a terrific all around player.

11. San Francisco (4-6) - Derrick Morgan, DE/OLB - He's a beast and arguably the best pass rusher available in this year's draft. He's got the strength, burst, and instincts to be a top-flight rusher, which is easily the defense's biggest need. He projects more as a 4-3 End at 6'4" 270 pounds, but is athletic enough to probably be a 3-4 linebacker. Even if he's fairly poor in coverage, if he can be a good pass rushers, nothing else really matters. Pass Rushing ability is that much more valuable.

12. New York Jets (4-6) - Brandon Graham, DE/OLB. Graham has been on a tear lately, and perhaps one of the few bright spots for the Michigan defense. With the success of Dumervil, Harrison, Mathis, and Freeney, height seems to be less of an issue with pass rushers. The Jets dont' have a ton of holes, but one of them is rushing the passer.

13. San Francisco f/CAR (4-6) - Joe Haden, CB. This really depends on what Haden runs, because speed is so important for cornerbacks, but Haden projects to be a no. 1 cornerback with the ability to provide run support. He's got fluid hips and tackling ability, and has only gotten better since last year.
Originally posted by dhp318:
I realize O-line is among our biggest concerns, but beyond Russell Okung, it's hard for me to see an offensive lineman worthy of a top 15 pick, especially when we have so many other spots in our team worthy of upgrades. I really don't think Trent Williams is as good as people say he is.


1. CLE (1-9) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska. Suh is arguably the best player on the board, and Shaun Rogers is aging in Cleveland. To be honest, you can't blame it all on Quinn for Cleveland's offensive woes, especially when they got rid of both Winslow and Edwards. Their best offensive weapon is Cribbs, a KR/PR. I would expect them to trade down for better value and select an offensive player such as Dez Bryant or Spiller.

2. STL (1-9) - Jimmy Clausen, QB. Marc Bulger is not the answer and they need a franchise signal caller. Clausen is arguably the most pro ready QB available, and the Rams will take him.

3. TB(1-9) - Gerald McCoy, DT. An elite Defensive Tackle, he can penetrate at will. TB built its defense on an elite defensive interior during its Championship years, and McCoy has potential to be a defensive cornerstone.

4. Detroit (2-8) - Russell Okung, OT. Matthew Stafford has already suffered several injuries, and considering what Detroit has invested in him, they will need to invest in some serious protection. Okung is the cream of the O-line crop, and a candidate to protect Stafford's blind side.

5. Seattle (3-7) - Eric Berry, DB. Seattle has had among the slower safeties, and Eric Berry is also clearly the best player available. A frightening playmaker in Tennessee's secondary, Berry has potential to play any position in the secondary. A top flight running back or QB wouldn't be out of the question, but at #5, Berry is the pick.

6. Washington (3-7) - Jake Locker, QB. It seems the Jason Campbell experience is coming to an end along with the Jim Zorn era. In my mind, Campbell is far from the problem, but that's irrelevant. Locker is the most physically gifted QB, but still very raw.

7. Buffalo (3-7) - Sam Bradford, QB. Fitzpatrick is not the future. Edwards is not the future. Losman was not the future. Clearly, Buffalo is in need of a QB. Bradford doesn't have a cannon arm, which is probably a necessity to throw in Buffalo, but that won't stop the Bills. On the other hand, Bradford is smart, has a quick release, and is accurate. As long as he checks out medically, Bradford is likely a top 15 pick.

8. Oakland (3-7) - Carlos Dunlap, DE. A physical freak, Dunlap is 6'6" at 290 pounds and reportedly runs a sub 4.7. Al Davis loves workout warriors, and Dunlap is no different. Despite concerns about his productivity, Dunlap has recorded 6.5 sacks for year facing constant double teams, and has likely only scratched the surface of his potential. A QB is also a possibility (Jake Locker?)

9. Kansas City (3-7) - Dez Bryant, WR. KC is in search of some serious weapons, and Dez Bryant is the best offensive player available on the board. Dwayne Bowe is their only legit weapon and the Chiefs could desperately use some talent opposite Bowe. Although suspended for violations, it's clear that the NCAA was far too harsh on Bryant, and as long as he stays in shape, he's a lock for the 1st round.

10. Denver f/CHI (4-6) - Rolando McClain, LB. Mike Nolan has totally changed this defense into a decent unit, but it still lacks talent from the inside out. Having picked Patrick Willis in SF, Nolan knows the value of a stud inside LB. McDaniels is also certainly aware of a certain Jerod Mayo in NE. McClain possesses great size and speed and is a terrific all around player.

11. San Francisco (4-6) - Derrick Morgan, DE/OLB - He's a beast and arguably the best pass rusher available in this year's draft. He's got the strength, burst, and instincts to be a top-flight rusher, which is easily the defense's biggest need. He projects more as a 4-3 End at 6'4" 270 pounds, but is athletic enough to probably be a 3-4 linebacker. Even if he's fairly poor in coverage, if he can be a good pass rushers, nothing else really matters. Pass Rushing ability is that much more valuable.

12. New York Jets (4-6) - Brandon Graham, DE/OLB. Graham has been on a tear lately, and perhaps one of the few bright spots for the Michigan defense. With the success of Dumervil, Harrison, Mathis, and Freeney, height seems to be less of an issue with pass rushers. The Jets dont' have a ton of holes, but one of them is rushing the passer.

13. San Francisco f/CAR (4-6) - Joe Haden, CB. This really depends on what Haden runs, because speed is so important for cornerbacks, but Haden projects to be a no. 1 cornerback with the ability to provide run support. He's got fluid hips and tackling ability, and has only gotten better since last year.

They need to get a tackle with one of those picks don't you think? I do like both of those players you got us taking though. I just think they have to address the O-Line with one of the picks (if not both.)
I have no objection to taking the best players available in the first round. But somewhere in the FA or Draft they must make offensive line a priority.
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Most scouts see Morgan as purely a 4-3 DE, and say that he would struggle quite a bit as a 3-4 rush LB.
IMO if we were to take a CB first round i'd rather trade down and pick up Patrick Robinson and a pick later in the draft.
Originally posted by drake49er:
IMO if we were to take a CB first round i'd rather trade down and pick up Patrick Robinson and a pick later in the draft.

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Originally posted by AC49er:
Donde esta la linea ofensiva?

no say
Sorry and no offense, but epic fail. a 4-3 DE over a tackle (which we have desperately needed over 3 years now?)

The pick of CB is not a bad choice at all. It is very hard to get good fast CB's, they usually go early.

This draft seems pretty loaded in 3-4 OLB, I think we go tackle with 1 of the 1st rounders and with the other 1st, we go with BPA. We can then use the 2nd on an OLB or Guard.

Maybe use the 3rd for a NT if Franklin doesn't resign.
Originally posted by dhp318:
I realize O-line is among our biggest concerns, but beyond Russell Okung, it's hard for me to see an offensive lineman worthy of a top 15 pick, especially when we have so many other spots in our team worthy of upgrades. I really don't think Trent Williams is as good as people say he is.


1. CLE (1-9) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska. Suh is arguably the best player on the board, and Shaun Rogers is aging in Cleveland. To be honest, you can't blame it all on Quinn for Cleveland's offensive woes, especially when they got rid of both Winslow and Edwards. Their best offensive weapon is Cribbs, a KR/PR. I would expect them to trade down for better value and select an offensive player such as Dez Bryant or Spiller.

2. STL (1-9) - Jimmy Clausen, QB. Marc Bulger is not the answer and they need a franchise signal caller. Clausen is arguably the most pro ready QB available, and the Rams will take him.

3. TB(1-9) - Gerald McCoy, DT. An elite Defensive Tackle, he can penetrate at will. TB built its defense on an elite defensive interior during its Championship years, and McCoy has potential to be a defensive cornerstone.

4. Detroit (2-8) - Russell Okung, OT. Matthew Stafford has already suffered several injuries, and considering what Detroit has invested in him, they will need to invest in some serious protection. Okung is the cream of the O-line crop, and a candidate to protect Stafford's blind side.

5. Seattle (3-7) - Eric Berry, DB. Seattle has had among the slower safeties, and Eric Berry is also clearly the best player available. A frightening playmaker in Tennessee's secondary, Berry has potential to play any position in the secondary. A top flight running back or QB wouldn't be out of the question, but at #5, Berry is the pick.

6. Washington (3-7) - Jake Locker, QB. It seems the Jason Campbell experience is coming to an end along with the Jim Zorn era. In my mind, Campbell is far from the problem, but that's irrelevant. Locker is the most physically gifted QB, but still very raw.

7. Buffalo (3-7) - Sam Bradford, QB. Fitzpatrick is not the future. Edwards is not the future. Losman was not the future. Clearly, Buffalo is in need of a QB. Bradford doesn't have a cannon arm, which is probably a necessity to throw in Buffalo, but that won't stop the Bills. On the other hand, Bradford is smart, has a quick release, and is accurate. As long as he checks out medically, Bradford is likely a top 15 pick.

8. Oakland (3-7) - Carlos Dunlap, DE. A physical freak, Dunlap is 6'6" at 290 pounds and reportedly runs a sub 4.7. Al Davis loves workout warriors, and Dunlap is no different. Despite concerns about his productivity, Dunlap has recorded 6.5 sacks for year facing constant double teams, and has likely only scratched the surface of his potential. A QB is also a possibility (Jake Locker?)

9. Kansas City (3-7) - Dez Bryant, WR. KC is in search of some serious weapons, and Dez Bryant is the best offensive player available on the board. Dwayne Bowe is their only legit weapon and the Chiefs could desperately use some talent opposite Bowe. Although suspended for violations, it's clear that the NCAA was far too harsh on Bryant, and as long as he stays in shape, he's a lock for the 1st round.

10. Denver f/CHI (4-6) - Rolando McClain, LB. Mike Nolan has totally changed this defense into a decent unit, but it still lacks talent from the inside out. Having picked Patrick Willis in SF, Nolan knows the value of a stud inside LB. McDaniels is also certainly aware of a certain Jerod Mayo in NE. McClain possesses great size and speed and is a terrific all around player.

11. San Francisco (4-6) - Derrick Morgan, DE/OLB - He's a beast and arguably the best pass rusher available in this year's draft. He's got the strength, burst, and instincts to be a top-flight rusher, which is easily the defense's biggest need. He projects more as a 4-3 End at 6'4" 270 pounds, but is athletic enough to probably be a 3-4 linebacker. Even if he's fairly poor in coverage, if he can be a good pass rushers, nothing else really matters. Pass Rushing ability is that much more valuable.

12. New York Jets (4-6) - Brandon Graham, DE/OLB. Graham has been on a tear lately, and perhaps one of the few bright spots for the Michigan defense. With the success of Dumervil, Harrison, Mathis, and Freeney, height seems to be less of an issue with pass rushers. The Jets dont' have a ton of holes, but one of them is rushing the passer.

13. San Francisco f/CAR (4-6) - Joe Haden, CB. This really depends on what Haden runs, because speed is so important for cornerbacks, but Haden projects to be a no. 1 cornerback with the ability to provide run support. He's got fluid hips and tackling ability, and has only gotten better since last year.

I completely agree with you here and I commend you for taking a not so popular approach at this moment by sticking to BPA rather than focusing on need picks (o-linemen).

My only alteration would be to take Hadan with our 1a pick and grab Jerry Hughes with 1b... I've been driving the Hughes bandwagon all year and still maintain that he is the top 3-4 OLB prospect in the draft due to his continued dominance this year after pacing the nation in sacks last year.

I would then explore every avenue to attempt to trade back up from our 2nd round pick to grab Mike Iupati. Selecting him somewhere around the end of the 1st or early 2nd would correspond perfectly to his respective value as a potentially dominant interior o-lineman... Our other offensive line needs should be filled through free agency - McNeil is the obvious guy to go after and plug into RT, but Im also interested in Jahri Evans versatility and am interested to see if he could make the transition back to OT(where he played in college) from OG.


This would enable us to fulfill three needs while maximizing value of each respective selection.
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I don't watch enough college football to know who is or is not a good pick. However, if we draft for need in the first round we will end up with the likes of Jim Druckinmiller and Reggie McGrew. We need to take the best player. It's not like this team has only one weakness. My approach would be to fill the glaring needs through FA and draft the best possible player.[/code]
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by dhp318:
I realize O-line is among our biggest concerns, but beyond Russell Okung, it's hard for me to see an offensive lineman worthy of a top 15 pick, especially when we have so many other spots in our team worthy of upgrades. I really don't think Trent Williams is as good as people say he is.


1. CLE (1-9) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska. Suh is arguably the best player on the board, and Shaun Rogers is aging in Cleveland. To be honest, you can't blame it all on Quinn for Cleveland's offensive woes, especially when they got rid of both Winslow and Edwards. Their best offensive weapon is Cribbs, a KR/PR. I would expect them to trade down for better value and select an offensive player such as Dez Bryant or Spiller.

2. STL (1-9) - Jimmy Clausen, QB. Marc Bulger is not the answer and they need a franchise signal caller. Clausen is arguably the most pro ready QB available, and the Rams will take him.

3. TB(1-9) - Gerald McCoy, DT. An elite Defensive Tackle, he can penetrate at will. TB built its defense on an elite defensive interior during its Championship years, and McCoy has potential to be a defensive cornerstone.

4. Detroit (2-8) - Russell Okung, OT. Matthew Stafford has already suffered several injuries, and considering what Detroit has invested in him, they will need to invest in some serious protection. Okung is the cream of the O-line crop, and a candidate to protect Stafford's blind side.

5. Seattle (3-7) - Eric Berry, DB. Seattle has had among the slower safeties, and Eric Berry is also clearly the best player available. A frightening playmaker in Tennessee's secondary, Berry has potential to play any position in the secondary. A top flight running back or QB wouldn't be out of the question, but at #5, Berry is the pick.

6. Washington (3-7) - Jake Locker, QB. It seems the Jason Campbell experience is coming to an end along with the Jim Zorn era. In my mind, Campbell is far from the problem, but that's irrelevant. Locker is the most physically gifted QB, but still very raw.

7. Buffalo (3-7) - Sam Bradford, QB. Fitzpatrick is not the future. Edwards is not the future. Losman was not the future. Clearly, Buffalo is in need of a QB. Bradford doesn't have a cannon arm, which is probably a necessity to throw in Buffalo, but that won't stop the Bills. On the other hand, Bradford is smart, has a quick release, and is accurate. As long as he checks out medically, Bradford is likely a top 15 pick.

8. Oakland (3-7) - Carlos Dunlap, DE. A physical freak, Dunlap is 6'6" at 290 pounds and reportedly runs a sub 4.7. Al Davis loves workout warriors, and Dunlap is no different. Despite concerns about his productivity, Dunlap has recorded 6.5 sacks for year facing constant double teams, and has likely only scratched the surface of his potential. A QB is also a possibility (Jake Locker?)

9. Kansas City (3-7) - Dez Bryant, WR. KC is in search of some serious weapons, and Dez Bryant is the best offensive player available on the board. Dwayne Bowe is their only legit weapon and the Chiefs could desperately use some talent opposite Bowe. Although suspended for violations, it's clear that the NCAA was far too harsh on Bryant, and as long as he stays in shape, he's a lock for the 1st round.

10. Denver f/CHI (4-6) - Rolando McClain, LB. Mike Nolan has totally changed this defense into a decent unit, but it still lacks talent from the inside out. Having picked Patrick Willis in SF, Nolan knows the value of a stud inside LB. McDaniels is also certainly aware of a certain Jerod Mayo in NE. McClain possesses great size and speed and is a terrific all around player.

11. San Francisco (4-6) - Derrick Morgan, DE/OLB - He's a beast and arguably the best pass rusher available in this year's draft. He's got the strength, burst, and instincts to be a top-flight rusher, which is easily the defense's biggest need. He projects more as a 4-3 End at 6'4" 270 pounds, but is athletic enough to probably be a 3-4 linebacker. Even if he's fairly poor in coverage, if he can be a good pass rushers, nothing else really matters. Pass Rushing ability is that much more valuable.

12. New York Jets (4-6) - Brandon Graham, DE/OLB. Graham has been on a tear lately, and perhaps one of the few bright spots for the Michigan defense. With the success of Dumervil, Harrison, Mathis, and Freeney, height seems to be less of an issue with pass rushers. The Jets dont' have a ton of holes, but one of them is rushing the passer.

13. San Francisco f/CAR (4-6) - Joe Haden, CB. This really depends on what Haden runs, because speed is so important for cornerbacks, but Haden projects to be a no. 1 cornerback with the ability to provide run support. He's got fluid hips and tackling ability, and has only gotten better since last year.

I completely agree with you here and I commend you for taking a not so popular approach at this moment by sticking to BPA rather than focusing on need picks (o-linemen).

My only alteration would be to take Hadan with our 1a pick and grab Jerry Hughes with 1b... I've been driving the Hughes bandwagon all year and still maintain that he is the top 3-4 OLB prospect in the draft due to his continued dominance this year after pacing the nation in sacks last year.

I would then explore every avenue to attempt to trade back up from our 2nd round pick to grab Mike Iupati. Selecting him somewhere around the end of the 1st or early 2nd would correspond perfectly to his respective value as a potentially dominant interior o-lineman... Our other offensive line needs should be filled through free agency - McNeil is the obvious guy to go after and plug into RT, but Im also interested in Jahri Evans versatility and am interested to see if he could make the transition back to OT(where he played in college) from OG.


This would enable us to fulfill three needs while maximizing value of each respective selection.

Great idea. Would be happy with that draft for sure.
Originally posted by AC49er:
Donde esta la linea ofensiva?

What he said. Well, probably.

Ou est ils?
Originally posted by abowers1984:


I completely agree with you here and I commend you for taking a not so popular approach at this moment by sticking to BPA rather than focusing on need picks (o-linemen).

My only alteration would be to take Hadan with our 1a pick and grab Jerry Hughes with 1b... I've been driving the Hughes bandwagon all year and still maintain that he is the top 3-4 OLB prospect in the draft due to his continued dominance this year after pacing the nation in sacks last year.

I would then explore every avenue to attempt to trade back up from our 2nd round pick to grab Mike Iupati. Selecting him somewhere around the end of the 1st or early 2nd would correspond perfectly to his respective value as a potentially dominant interior o-lineman... Our other offensive line needs should be filled through free agency - McNeil is the obvious guy to go after and plug into RT, but Im also interested in Jahri Evans versatility and am interested to see if he could make the transition back to OT(where he played in college) from OG.


This would enable us to fulfill three needs while maximizing value of each respective selection.

I would tend to agree, especially if Haden runs a very good 40 time, that would shoot him potentially out of our reach. I'm a pretty huge fan of Jerry Hughes as well, but Morgan is in my mind the best pass rusher still and that's why I'd take him first. Even after losing talent on that line to the NFL, Morgan has gotten even better this year even with constant double teams. As far as O-line in the 2nd round, I would hope that one fo the OTs like Bruce Campbell, Davis, Brown, or even Williams might be available and potentially be worth the pickup there. On the other hand, Iupati is still a beast.