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2010 NFL Draft Projections- Picks 1-15: October 27

Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersRednGold:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersRednGold:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.

Drafting that high I want the player to get on the field, Dez would have a better shot getting serious playing time compared to Spiller. Both would be great additions but don't think we would shy away from the possibility.

I see what you're saying. I hate to say this, but Frank is not getting any younger and the beating he's been taking is finally starting to show. We've seen a lot more of Coffee this year than I seriously thought we would. If we sign Spiller, trust me, he will see the field quite often whether it be at running back or wide receiver.

A good example is Percy Harvin. He was draft in the first round (22nd) and he doesn't play every down. Sydney Rice and Berrian are starting and the RB is of course AP. But Harvin still gets a lot of playing time because of his versatility. You can put him as a RB or a WR and he gets in about 80% of the time. And Harvin is the KO returner. I think Spiller can play the same role for us as a rookie and like SF69ers said, Gore is not getting any younger and Gore seems to have yearly ankle injuries that causes him to miss games.

I really feel that Spiller can really complete our team by giving us that dynamic , speedy playmaker. Like MadDog says, a Chris Johnson for us. If Alex works out, we have a solid QB throwing to Crabtree and Morgan. Brandon Jones has potential to be the speedy WR. Gore the tough runner. Spiller will be that home run hitter.

We just need an o-line which I think we will address with our first 1st round pick (OT) and in the 2nd rd and beyond for Guards.

Very true....but I have a lil insight on a specific team. My buddy is a Browns fan, I know sad isn't it . Anyways they are in dire need of a RB, their OL is actually not too bad and their WR's are pretty good as well. What they are missing is a RB, Lewis is sucking major ass and isn't getting it done. I would seriously consider them in the market for Spiller or Best (if he declares).

I remember there is another RB that is thought to be the first RB off the board. Jonathan Dwyer out of GT I think.

Either way I think they go RB, Clausen will stay for his senior year.

The Browns will take a QB. Mangini is going to want "his guy". Or maybe even someone for that horrid defense.

The problem I see is what if no QB's are available....I know sounds dumb right? For instance I think Clausen and Locker could actually stay for their senior years, so who would they go after...Bradford . If a QB isn't there or isn't the right guy I can see them targeting a RB.

Locker should go back for his senior year and if he is smart he will. Before this season, under Sarkisian, he would not have been even remotely close to 1st round material. His game has improved, but he is still not close to NFL ready at this point. If he goes to a horrible team like the Rams he will NOT be successful right away, in fact he might even regress.

Another year with Sarkisian coaching him up would benefit Locker greatly. Of course Locker will look at what happened to Bradford and who knows. Locker would benefit from serving as an understudy for proven NFL QB, on a team with a good OC and QB coach.

If I was advising him, I would tell him to go back for his Sr year.
Juniors are going to come out if they are projected high because of the possibility of a rookie cap.
Originally posted by znk916:
Thought about it a little more, and honestly don't really like Charles Brown for our team. Granted, we fail in all aspects of offense lately, but the one thing I find especially frustrating is our inability to convert on 3rd and short, because we don't have any dominant run-blocking linemen, the kind that can get the job done even when the other team knows that you are going to run behind him.

In short, I guess what I'm saying is Iupati ftw lol.

The one thing I find incredibly frustrating is our inability to keep our QB protected on a consistent basis. I understand your point but the first thing I want from my OT is the ability to pass protect. Brown is very athletic and could be the answer. I would have no problem moving Staly over to RT where I actually think he would be better. I am not thrilled with him on the left side.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by znk916:
Thought about it a little more, and honestly don't really like Charles Brown for our team. Granted, we fail in all aspects of offense lately, but the one thing I find especially frustrating is our inability to convert on 3rd and short, because we don't have any dominant run-blocking linemen, the kind that can get the job done even when the other team knows that you are going to run behind him.

In short, I guess what I'm saying is Iupati ftw lol.

The one thing I find incredibly frustrating is our inability to keep our QB protected on a consistent basis. I understand your point but the first thing I want from my OT is the ability to pass protect. Brown is very athletic and could be the answer. I would have no problem moving Staly over to RT where I actually think he would be better. I am not thrilled with him on the left side.

There is still a possibility to bolster up our o-line, add a pass rusher, and add an x-factor on offense. I have posted this before in another thread but here are my selections:
1a. CJ Spiller (only if Eric Berry is off the board)
1B. Mike Iupati
2. Jason Fox
3. Brandon Graham.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by znk916:
Thought about it a little more, and honestly don't really like Charles Brown for our team. Granted, we fail in all aspects of offense lately, but the one thing I find especially frustrating is our inability to convert on 3rd and short, because we don't have any dominant run-blocking linemen, the kind that can get the job done even when the other team knows that you are going to run behind him.

In short, I guess what I'm saying is Iupati ftw lol.

The one thing I find incredibly frustrating is our inability to keep our QB protected on a consistent basis. I understand your point but the first thing I want from my OT is the ability to pass protect. Brown is very athletic and could be the answer. I would have no problem moving Staly over to RT where I actually think he would be better. I am not thrilled with him on the left side.

There is still a possibility to bolster up our o-line, add a pass rusher, and add an x-factor on offense. I have posted this before in another thread but here are my selections:
1a. CJ Spiller (only if Eric Berry is off the board)
1B. Mike Iupati
2. Jason Fox
3. Brandon Graham.

Like Spiller but there is no way I am taking a platoon back with the 10th or so pick of the draft with the huge needs on the line and in pass rush. You dont know who will be available later on in round 1 , rd 2, or 3. The line HAS to be addressed first in my opinion unless something crazy (like Bery falling) occurs.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by znk916:
Thought about it a little more, and honestly don't really like Charles Brown for our team. Granted, we fail in all aspects of offense lately, but the one thing I find especially frustrating is our inability to convert on 3rd and short, because we don't have any dominant run-blocking linemen, the kind that can get the job done even when the other team knows that you are going to run behind him.

In short, I guess what I'm saying is Iupati ftw lol.

The one thing I find incredibly frustrating is our inability to keep our QB protected on a consistent basis. I understand your point but the first thing I want from my OT is the ability to pass protect. Brown is very athletic and could be the answer. I would have no problem moving Staly over to RT where I actually think he would be better. I am not thrilled with him on the left side.

There is still a possibility to bolster up our o-line, add a pass rusher, and add an x-factor on offense. I have posted this before in another thread but here are my selections:
1a. CJ Spiller (only if Eric Berry is off the board)
1B. Mike Iupati
2. Jason Fox
3. Brandon Graham.

Like Spiller but there is no way I am taking a platoon back with the 10th or so pick of the draft with the huge needs on the line and in pass rush. You dont know who will be available later on in round 1 , rd 2, or 3. The line HAS to be addressed first in my opinion unless something crazy (like Bery falling) occurs.

To be able to add a talent like Spiller would help our offense tremendously. Place him at receiver, running back, kick returner and you have yourself an x-factor that teams will gameplan for. Let's be honest, Coffee is not impressing and Gore has been battling injuries the last couple years.

Mike Iupati, arguable the best guard in this upcoming draft, is climbing up draft boards. With his size and talent, he may move over to RT. Jason Fox from Miami is also climbing up draft boards and has shown very good feet. He is one of the reasons why the Miami offense has been good lately.

Brandon Graham reminds me a lot of Lamar Woodley. A pass rushing terror that has a motor that never quits. So what exactly is wrong with this draft?
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Courtesy of the Great Blue North Draft, who gave the draft order, the Niners are currently on the clock for the 11th and 15th overall picks. The good news is that the Panthers have a murderers row of games coming up, which should push their selection back up the board. The bad news is that the worst six teams are so bad that they may never drift further up the board than number 7. We will see.

The numbers on the end is winning percentage of opponents. The lower the winning percentage, the higher the draft selection.

Here is the projection I see for the draft at this point.

1 St. Louis 0-7 .535
Jake Locker- I'll stick with the guy with the strongest arm and biggest upside to go first overall, to revamp this terrible offense.
2 Tampa Bay 0-7 .584
Ndamukong Suh- The Bucs have to rebuild, and Suh has been dominant this year. Could provide the best interior defender on the team since Warren Sapp.
3 Tennessee 0-6 .553
Sam Bradford- So many variables for Bradford. Will his surgery go well, and when will he return to throwing the ball. Will he be able to work out for scouts early enough before the draft for a proper evaluation.
4 Kansas City 1-6 .548
Eric Berry- The team has a billion needs, and Berry is simply too good to slide much further. A real difference maker from Day One, which they desperately need.
5 Cleveland 1-6 .558
Jimmy Clausen- Brady Quinn is going out the door, and Derek Anderson is currently ranked 35th in the NFL. Enter the newest kid from Notre Dame.
6 Detroit 1-5 .553
Gerald McCoy- The Lions need a stellar defender up the middle, and McCoy provides explosiveness.
7 Washington 2-5 .500
Russell Okung- The first OT off the board, and a good pick for a team that is going to probably lose Chris Samuels for good.
8 Oakland 2-5 .543
Taylor Mays- Al Davis loves speed, and guys who hit. Mays gives his team both, and in the end, his decision is the only one that matters.
9 Seattle 2-4 .446
Dez Bryant- The Seahawks do have other needs, but witness the Niners come to life with Crabtree. To match the Niners in this area, the team picks up this year's stud WR, in Bryant.
10 Miami 2-4 .543
Ricky Sapp- Just taking a hunch that Sapp runs a blazing forty time, looks ultra athletic, and the Dolphins look for a long-term replacement to the Porter-Taylor OLB combo.
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 2-4 .567
Charles Brown- As predicted a few weeks ago, the USC LT is beginning to blaze up the board. Both writers for NFL Draft Scout now have him in the first round. He's just a super athletic kid, with lots of room to grow.
12 Buffalo 3-4 .471
Trent Williams- The Bills need help at OT, and Williams is a good prospect who can come in to keep Trent Edwards upright and alive.
13 Jacksonville 3-3 .433
Carlos Dunlap- Nobody knows what his position will be at the next level, but he can start from Day One as the LDE for the Jags, and move inside on passing downs.
14 San Diego 3-3 .467
Arthur Jones- The team needs to rebuild its DL, which is struggling against the run in 2009. Jones takes over at LDE.
15 San Francisco 3-3 .470
CJ Spiller- The Niners' second first rounder is a luxury pick, and this is quite a luxury. Spiller provides world class speed, a third down back, a punt and kickoff return specialist (which may be the team's biggest need going into 2010), and an explosive receiver in the flats. People scoffed when Chris Johnson was drafted out of East Carolina by the Titans. The same for Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew. Nobody laughs anymore. Speed kills. This team will be explosive with Crabtree, Spiller, Davis, Gore, Morgan.

no way we pass on Williams
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

one, he is injury prone, and would not touch him, 2nd, I dont get the hype for Bradford, he isnt that good, and its proven, he lost a couple WR's and OL and looked terrible, thats why id stay far away from Bradford, or any QB in 2010 draft not named Clausen or Locker.

You might not take him but that doesnt mean he wont go as a top 5 pick. There are at least 3 bottom teams that are in dire need of a QB and Bradford is without question one of the top 3 QBs.

As for being injury prone.. well his injury could have happened to any QB. He isnt the first nor will he be the last who has separated a shoulder after a huge DL or LB lands on him. He got hurt. Does this mean that Tom Brady is injury prone too because he got hurt and missed the entire year? What about Carson Palmer?

Finally.. you said he isnt all that good and that it is proven. Perhaps you need to rethink that. What's been proved??? The only thing that is fact is that he was incredible last year, won the Heisman Trophy, threw 50 tds compared to 8 picks,and completed almost 70% of his passes. Ya.. he sucks.

The idea that he's injury prone is so bogus. He gets hurt, hurries back, reaggravates the injury and needs surgery. That does not make him injury prone. And you have NO IDEA what he would have looked like this year without the same surrounding cast. He was hurt in the first game and the returning game, HE PLAYED ONE GAME THIS YEAR! and looked just fine.

Totally agree. How can you say he didn't look good?
Clausen and Locker will declare with Bradford's injury and his likely drop from the top ten. Plus, both watched what happened when Bradford didn't declare: he got hurt and lost a ton of money. The Clausen's family havn't been able to get either of their older sons into the NFL, a goal of their father. With no clear top QB, formerly Bradford, standing in Clausen's way, the only conclussion is he will declare. As for Locker, he may return because Sark will improve his draft stock. But again given the lack of a top qb, he stands a great chance of being drafted in the top 10. Carlos Dunlap will be taken in the top 5 as well. In that same vein, no way we pass on him at 11. The guy could start for us at LDE and become a great player. Don't sleep on Earl Thomas. The guy is almost, just a shade, as good as Berry. We could really use a faster play-making safety. In the immortal words of Bill Walsh: you can coach offense but you have to have great athletes to play defense. The holes we have on offense, barring QB, can be filled in free agency. We need to continue to make our defense dominant. We can debate many things but we have 1 truth: Willis is our best player. The more talent we surround him with the more likely we get back to the SB. Let's not forget the bulk of the draft occurs in rounds 2-7. These picks could really bolster our offense, given that we have many weapons already.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by znk916:
Thought about it a little more, and honestly don't really like Charles Brown for our team. Granted, we fail in all aspects of offense lately, but the one thing I find especially frustrating is our inability to convert on 3rd and short, because we don't have any dominant run-blocking linemen, the kind that can get the job done even when the other team knows that you are going to run behind him.

In short, I guess what I'm saying is Iupati ftw lol.

The one thing I find incredibly frustrating is our inability to keep our QB protected on a consistent basis. I understand your point but the first thing I want from my OT is the ability to pass protect. Brown is very athletic and could be the answer. I would have no problem moving Staly over to RT where I actually think he would be better. I am not thrilled with him on the left side.

There is still a possibility to bolster up our o-line, add a pass rusher, and add an x-factor on offense. I have posted this before in another thread but here are my selections:
1a. CJ Spiller (only if Eric Berry is off the board)
1B. Mike Iupati
2. Jason Fox
3. Brandon Graham.

Like Spiller but there is no way I am taking a platoon back with the 10th or so pick of the draft with the huge needs on the line and in pass rush. You dont know who will be available later on in round 1 , rd 2, or 3. The line HAS to be addressed first in my opinion unless something crazy (like Bery falling) occurs.

To be able to add a talent like Spiller would help our offense tremendously. Place him at receiver, running back, kick returner and you have yourself an x-factor that teams will gameplan for. Let's be honest, Coffee is not impressing and Gore has been battling injuries the last couple years.

Mike Iupati, arguable the best guard in this upcoming draft, is climbing up draft boards. With his size and talent, he may move over to RT. Jason Fox from Miami is also climbing up draft boards and has shown very good feet. He is one of the reasons why the Miami offense has been good lately.

Brandon Graham reminds me a lot of Lamar Woodley. A pass rushing terror that has a motor that never quits. So what exactly is wrong with this draft?

Really wish we could find a way to get Jerry Hughes & CJ Spiller in the 1st round.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by znk916:
Thought about it a little more, and honestly don't really like Charles Brown for our team. Granted, we fail in all aspects of offense lately, but the one thing I find especially frustrating is our inability to convert on 3rd and short, because we don't have any dominant run-blocking linemen, the kind that can get the job done even when the other team knows that you are going to run behind him.

In short, I guess what I'm saying is Iupati ftw lol.

The one thing I find incredibly frustrating is our inability to keep our QB protected on a consistent basis. I understand your point but the first thing I want from my OT is the ability to pass protect. Brown is very athletic and could be the answer. I would have no problem moving Staly over to RT where I actually think he would be better. I am not thrilled with him on the left side.

There is still a possibility to bolster up our o-line, add a pass rusher, and add an x-factor on offense. I have posted this before in another thread but here are my selections:
1a. CJ Spiller (only if Eric Berry is off the board)
1B. Mike Iupati
2. Jason Fox
3. Brandon Graham.

Like Spiller but there is no way I am taking a platoon back with the 10th or so pick of the draft with the huge needs on the line and in pass rush. You dont know who will be available later on in round 1 , rd 2, or 3. The line HAS to be addressed first in my opinion unless something crazy (like Bery falling) occurs.

To be able to add a talent like Spiller would help our offense tremendously. Place him at receiver, running back, kick returner and you have yourself an x-factor that teams will gameplan for. Let's be honest, Coffee is not impressing and Gore has been battling injuries the last couple years.

Mike Iupati, arguable the best guard in this upcoming draft, is climbing up draft boards. With his size and talent, he may move over to RT. Jason Fox from Miami is also climbing up draft boards and has shown very good feet. He is one of the reasons why the Miami offense has been good lately.

Brandon Graham reminds me a lot of Lamar Woodley. A pass rushing terror that has a motor that never quits. So what exactly is wrong with this draft?

Really wish we could find a way to get Jerry Hughes & CJ Spiller in the 1st round.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE Jerry Hughes fan and having Spiller and Hughes as our 1st round selections would make me very happy. But I just don't want to risk missing out on Iupati. I'm also very high on Brandon Graham.
Where would Hughes and Graham show up in the draft, 1st or 2nd rounds? Would either one of them last until the second round?
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Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Where would Hughes and Graham show up in the draft, 1st or 2nd rounds? Would either one of them last until the second round?

I think it will depend on their combine on if they go in round 1 or 2.

I could see Hughes being the next Larry English with a team (such as us) reaching on him a bit early.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by znk916:
Thought about it a little more, and honestly don't really like Charles Brown for our team. Granted, we fail in all aspects of offense lately, but the one thing I find especially frustrating is our inability to convert on 3rd and short, because we don't have any dominant run-blocking linemen, the kind that can get the job done even when the other team knows that you are going to run behind him.

In short, I guess what I'm saying is Iupati ftw lol.

The one thing I find incredibly frustrating is our inability to keep our QB protected on a consistent basis. I understand your point but the first thing I want from my OT is the ability to pass protect. Brown is very athletic and could be the answer. I would have no problem moving Staly over to RT where I actually think he would be better. I am not thrilled with him on the left side.

There is still a possibility to bolster up our o-line, add a pass rusher, and add an x-factor on offense. I have posted this before in another thread but here are my selections:
1a. CJ Spiller (only if Eric Berry is off the board)
1B. Mike Iupati
2. Jason Fox
3. Brandon Graham.

Like Spiller but there is no way I am taking a platoon back with the 10th or so pick of the draft with the huge needs on the line and in pass rush. You dont know who will be available later on in round 1 , rd 2, or 3. The line HAS to be addressed first in my opinion unless something crazy (like Bery falling) occurs.

To be able to add a talent like Spiller would help our offense tremendously. Place him at receiver, running back, kick returner and you have yourself an x-factor that teams will gameplan for. Let's be honest, Coffee is not impressing and Gore has been battling injuries the last couple years.

Mike Iupati, arguable the best guard in this upcoming draft, is climbing up draft boards. With his size and talent, he may move over to RT. Jason Fox from Miami is also climbing up draft boards and has shown very good feet. He is one of the reasons why the Miami offense has been good lately.

Brandon Graham reminds me a lot of Lamar Woodley. A pass rushing terror that has a motor that never quits. So what exactly is wrong with this draft?

Really wish we could find a way to get Jerry Hughes & CJ Spiller in the 1st round.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE Jerry Hughes fan and having Spiller and Hughes as our 1st round selections would make me very happy. But I just don't want to risk missing out on Iupati. I'm also very high on Brandon Graham.

Not a problem there either. We need to get our o-line taken care of for sure.
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Where would Hughes and Graham show up in the draft, 1st or 2nd rounds? Would either one of them last until the second round?

I think it will depend on their combine on if they go in round 1 or 2.

I could see Hughes being the next Larry English with a team (such as us) reaching on him a bit early.

I think Hughes is a much better prospect than English. English was a one-trick pony who was stonewalled by any adequate competition he faced.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Oct 30, 2009 at 9:21 PM ]