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2010 NFL Draft Projections- Picks 1-15: October 27

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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Courtesy of the Great Blue North Draft, who gave the draft order, the Niners are currently on the clock for the 11th and 15th overall picks. The good news is that the Panthers have a murderers row of games coming up, which should push their selection back up the board. The bad news is that the worst six teams are so bad that they may never drift further up the board than number 7. We will see.

The numbers on the end is winning percentage of opponents. The lower the winning percentage, the higher the draft selection.

Here is the projection I see for the draft at this point.

1 St. Louis 0-7 .535
Jake Locker- I'll stick with the guy with the strongest arm and biggest upside to go first overall, to revamp this terrible offense.
2 Tampa Bay 0-7 .584
Ndamukong Suh- The Bucs have to rebuild, and Suh has been dominant this year. Could provide the best interior defender on the team since Warren Sapp.
3 Tennessee 0-6 .553
Sam Bradford- So many variables for Bradford. Will his surgery go well, and when will he return to throwing the ball. Will he be able to work out for scouts early enough before the draft for a proper evaluation.
4 Kansas City 1-6 .548
Eric Berry- The team has a billion needs, and Berry is simply too good to slide much further. A real difference maker from Day One, which they desperately need.
5 Cleveland 1-6 .558
Jimmy Clausen- Brady Quinn is going out the door, and Derek Anderson is currently ranked 35th in the NFL. Enter the newest kid from Notre Dame.
6 Detroit 1-5 .553
Gerald McCoy- The Lions need a stellar defender up the middle, and McCoy provides explosiveness.
7 Washington 2-5 .500
Russell Okung- The first OT off the board, and a good pick for a team that is going to probably lose Chris Samuels for good.
8 Oakland 2-5 .543
Taylor Mays- Al Davis loves speed, and guys who hit. Mays gives his team both, and in the end, his decision is the only one that matters.
9 Seattle 2-4 .446
Dez Bryant- The Seahawks do have other needs, but witness the Niners come to life with Crabtree. To match the Niners in this area, the team picks up this year's stud WR, in Bryant.
10 Miami 2-4 .543
Ricky Sapp- Just taking a hunch that Sapp runs a blazing forty time, looks ultra athletic, and the Dolphins look for a long-term replacement to the Porter-Taylor OLB combo.
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 2-4 .567
Charles Brown- As predicted a few weeks ago, the USC LT is beginning to blaze up the board. Both writers for NFL Draft Scout now have him in the first round. He's just a super athletic kid, with lots of room to grow.
12 Buffalo 3-4 .471
Trent Williams- The Bills need help at OT, and Williams is a good prospect who can come in to keep Trent Edwards upright and alive.
13 Jacksonville 3-3 .433
Carlos Dunlap- Nobody knows what his position will be at the next level, but he can start from Day One as the LDE for the Jags, and move inside on passing downs.
14 San Diego 3-3 .467
Arthur Jones- The team needs to rebuild its DL, which is struggling against the run in 2009. Jones takes over at LDE.
15 San Francisco 3-3 .470
CJ Spiller- The Niners' second first rounder is a luxury pick, and this is quite a luxury. Spiller provides world class speed, a third down back, a punt and kickoff return specialist (which may be the team's biggest need going into 2010), and an explosive receiver in the flats. People scoffed when Chris Johnson was drafted out of East Carolina by the Titans. The same for Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew. Nobody laughs anymore. Speed kills. This team will be explosive with Crabtree, Spiller, Davis, Gore, Morgan.

Great job, doing it this early, but like all mocks this looks more like what you would do rather than what could happen. Eric Mangini is a defensive guy. It looks like neither Quinn/Anderson are the answer, but that defense is terrible. It looks like a rift is brewing in Tennessee with the owner wanting Young to play, while Fisher is currently sticking with Collins. Are they willing to committ to another high round QB so soon after drafting Young? Washington needs to rebuild their OL, but they also need to get a young prospect at QB to replace Campbell, well that's what the next coach is going to want to do. KC's offensive line is getting Cassel killed, but Berry's the BPA. I don't think Brown will turn pro. I think Rutgers' Anthony Davis is a sleeper as a high 1st round pick (not top 10, early-mid 1st round type). I'd love to have Spiller, but you can get a Noel Devine to return kicks and serve as a 3rd down back later on. Leon Washington wasn't a 1st round pick.
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Either way, the priorities are wrong, but if Bryant clearly grades out ahead of say Charles Brown then sure go for it. But I'm telling you with regards to the OL FA pool, there won't be anything there because all the big names are likely to be re-signed. Don't expect any help there unless you think Deuce Lutui is gonna be the savior.

I just think it's ridiculous when people salivate over skill position players when we barely run enough offensive plays for Gore, VD, Morgan, and now Crabs too. We lack any sort of consistency on offense, and go 3 and out constantly because one play always gets blown up due to OL failure, penalties or bad blocking.

I decent portion of the issues were related to Hill. If Alex can do whats expected the O will move the ball much much better. His ability to evade sacks and scramble will make the line look better.

I'm not saying we will land a guy in FA but I think we do look around for one. We will draft at least 1 linemen..I'm thinking 2 for sure, so we will cover that need. But the opportunity to create mismatches and truly attack defenses would be hard to pass up.
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Either way, the priorities are wrong, but if Bryant clearly grades out ahead of say Charles Brown then sure go for it. But I'm telling you with regards to the OL FA pool, there won't be anything there because all the big names are likely to be re-signed. Don't expect any help there unless you think Deuce Lutui is gonna be the savior.

I just think it's ridiculous when people salivate over skill position players when we barely run enough offensive plays for Gore, VD, Morgan, and now Crabs too. We lack any sort of consistency on offense, and go 3 and out constantly because one play always gets blown up due to OL failure, penalties or bad blocking.

I think people can go overboard with this we must draft 2 OL in the first 2 rounds. I hate to break to you guys but we already have 2 early 2nd rounders starting at guard and neither one seems to be the answer. People overrate the guard position. We can pick up quality guards in the mid rounds of the draft.

Tackle has to be a priority and should be one of our first 2 picks. I'm waiting on guards. The chances of finding a Will past round 1-2 is alot more difficult than finding a guard.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Oct 28, 2009 at 10:00 AM ]
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.

Drafting that high I want the player to get on the field, Dez would have a better shot getting serious playing time compared to Spiller. Both would be great additions but don't think we would shy away from the possibility.

I see what you're saying. I hate to say this, but Frank is not getting any younger and the beating he's been taking is finally starting to show. We've seen a lot more of Coffee this year than I seriously thought we would. If we sign Spiller, trust me, he will see the field quite often whether it be at running back or wide receiver.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Either way, the priorities are wrong, but if Bryant clearly grades out ahead of say Charles Brown then sure go for it. But I'm telling you with regards to the OL FA pool, there won't be anything there because all the big names are likely to be re-signed. Don't expect any help there unless you think Deuce Lutui is gonna be the savior.

I just think it's ridiculous when people salivate over skill position players when we barely run enough offensive plays for Gore, VD, Morgan, and now Crabs too. We lack any sort of consistency on offense, and go 3 and out constantly because one play always gets blown up due to OL failure, penalties or bad blocking.

I think people can go overboard with this we must draft 2 OL in the first 2 rounds. I hate to break to you guys but we already have 2 early 2nd rounders starting at guard and neither one seems to be the answer. People overrate the guard position. We can pick up quality guards in the mid rounds of the draft.

Tackle has to be a priority and should be one of our first 2 picks.

Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.

Drafting that high I want the player to get on the field, Dez would have a better shot getting serious playing time compared to Spiller. Both would be great additions but don't think we would shy away from the possibility.

I see what you're saying. I hate to say this, but Frank is not getting any younger and the beating he's been taking is finally starting to show. We've seen a lot more of Coffee this year than I seriously thought we would. If we sign Spiller, trust me, he will see the field quite often whether it be at running back or wide receiver.

I know it and you speak the truth about Gore

I still think we can use him to pull all the weight for 1 more year but it is depressing....and what happens to Coffee?
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.

Drafting that high I want the player to get on the field, Dez would have a better shot getting serious playing time compared to Spiller. Both would be great additions but don't think we would shy away from the possibility.

I see what you're saying. I hate to say this, but Frank is not getting any younger and the beating he's been taking is finally starting to show. We've seen a lot more of Coffee this year than I seriously thought we would. If we sign Spiller, trust me, he will see the field quite often whether it be at running back or wide receiver.

I know it and you speak the truth about Gore

I still think we can use him to pull all the weight for 1 more year but it is depressing....and what happens to Coffee?

I really don't know about Coffee and I really do hope that he progresses throughout this season and the upcoming offseason. He just doesn't have vision and I don't know if it's really his fault or the o-line. Spiller would definitely jump over him as the 2nd string running back.
Gore is not showing his age imo, it's just that our OL is that bad. People forget that we had a damn good run-blocking line in '06. From left to right, a mostly healthy Jonas Jennings, Larry Allen, Heitmann, Smiley, and Kwame (yes he could run block).

In '07 Jennings barely played, Smiley missed half the season, and Staley (who is below avg at run blocking) replaced Kwame.

In '08 Allen retired, and Smiley left.

It's really no surprise that things have deteriorated to the point that we are basically relying on a couple career backups in Baas and Snyder, and a vet retread in Sims. The only significant OL that we've added these past few years has been Rachal, and we all know how badly he is imploding this year after a solid rookie season.
Originally posted by znk916:
Gore is not showing his age imo, it's just that our OL is that bad. People forget that we had a damn good run-blocking line in '06. From left to right, a mostly healthy Jonas Jennings, Larry Allen, Heitmann, Smiley, and Kwame (yes he could run block).

In '07 Jennings barely played, Smiley missed half the season, and Staley (who is below avg at run blocking) replaced Kwame.

In '08 Allen retired, and Smiley left.

It's really no surprise that things have deteriorated to the point that we are basically relying on a couple career backups in Baas and Snyder, and a vet retread in Sims. The only significant OL that we've added these past few years has been Rachal, and we all know how badly he is imploding this year after a solid rookie season.

Baas was a 2nd round pick. He may be a career backup but he was brought in to be a center piece of our line for years to come. It looks like Rachal is going down that path too. At some point I've got to think coaching comes to play here. We're seeing no progression out of any of our young lineman. Look at Smiley. He was a promising guard who regressed under Nolan and then took off to Miami where he's playing at a high level.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Oct 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM ]
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by znk916:
Gore is not showing his age imo, it's just that our OL is that bad. People forget that we had a damn good run-blocking line in '06. From left to right, a mostly healthy Jonas Jennings, Larry Allen, Heitmann, Smiley, and Kwame (yes he could run block).

In '07 Jennings barely played, Smiley missed half the season, and Staley (who is below avg at run blocking) replaced Kwame.

In '08 Allen retired, and Smiley left.

It's really no surprise that things have deteriorated to the point that we are basically relying on a couple career backups in Baas and Snyder, and a vet retread in Sims. The only significant OL that we've added these past few years has been Rachal, and we all know how badly he is imploding this year after a solid rookie season.

Baas was a 2nd round pick. He may be a career backup but he was brought in to be a center piece of our line for years to come. It looks like Rachal is going down that path too. At some point I've got to think coaching comes to play here. We're seeing no progression out of any of our young lineman. Look at Smiley. He was a promising guard who regressed under Nolan and then took off to Miami where he's playing at a high level.

Ya I've been trying to bump the 'Fire Coach Foerster' thread for a couple weeks now in NT lol. No one seems to care though.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Courtesy of the Great Blue North Draft, who gave the draft order, the Niners are currently on the clock for the 11th and 15th overall picks. The good news is that the Panthers have a murderers row of games coming up, which should push their selection back up the board. The bad news is that the worst six teams are so bad that they may never drift further up the board than number 7. We will see.

The numbers on the end is winning percentage of opponents. The lower the winning percentage, the higher the draft selection.

Here is the projection I see for the draft at this point.

1 St. Louis 0-7 .535
Jake Locker- I'll stick with the guy with the strongest arm and biggest upside to go first overall, to revamp this terrible offense.
2 Tampa Bay 0-7 .584
Ndamukong Suh- The Bucs have to rebuild, and Suh has been dominant this year. Could provide the best interior defender on the team since Warren Sapp.
3 Tennessee 0-6 .553
Sam Bradford- So many variables for Bradford. Will his surgery go well, and when will he return to throwing the ball. Will he be able to work out for scouts early enough before the draft for a proper evaluation.
4 Kansas City 1-6 .548
Eric Berry- The team has a billion needs, and Berry is simply too good to slide much further. A real difference maker from Day One, which they desperately need.
5 Cleveland 1-6 .558
Jimmy Clausen- Brady Quinn is going out the door, and Derek Anderson is currently ranked 35th in the NFL. Enter the newest kid from Notre Dame.
6 Detroit 1-5 .553
Gerald McCoy- The Lions need a stellar defender up the middle, and McCoy provides explosiveness.
7 Washington 2-5 .500
Russell Okung- The first OT off the board, and a good pick for a team that is going to probably lose Chris Samuels for good.
8 Oakland 2-5 .543
Taylor Mays- Al Davis loves speed, and guys who hit. Mays gives his team both, and in the end, his decision is the only one that matters.
9 Seattle 2-4 .446
Dez Bryant- The Seahawks do have other needs, but witness the Niners come to life with Crabtree. To match the Niners in this area, the team picks up this year's stud WR, in Bryant.
10 Miami 2-4 .543
Ricky Sapp- Just taking a hunch that Sapp runs a blazing forty time, looks ultra athletic, and the Dolphins look for a long-term replacement to the Porter-Taylor OLB combo.
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 2-4 .567
Charles Brown- As predicted a few weeks ago, the USC LT is beginning to blaze up the board. Both writers for NFL Draft Scout now have him in the first round. He's just a super athletic kid, with lots of room to grow.
12 Buffalo 3-4 .471
Trent Williams- The Bills need help at OT, and Williams is a good prospect who can come in to keep Trent Edwards upright and alive.
13 Jacksonville 3-3 .433
Carlos Dunlap- Nobody knows what his position will be at the next level, but he can start from Day One as the LDE for the Jags, and move inside on passing downs.
14 San Diego 3-3 .467
Arthur Jones- The team needs to rebuild its DL, which is struggling against the run in 2009. Jones takes over at LDE.
15 San Francisco 3-3 .470
CJ Spiller- The Niners' second first rounder is a luxury pick, and this is quite a luxury. Spiller provides world class speed, a third down back, a punt and kickoff return specialist (which may be the team's biggest need going into 2010), and an explosive receiver in the flats. People scoffed when Chris Johnson was drafted out of East Carolina by the Titans. The same for Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew. Nobody laughs anymore. Speed kills. This team will be explosive with Crabtree, Spiller, Davis, Gore, Morgan.


MD, you must be assuming Smith is the answer, because if not, I believe we will do all we can to trade up and pick one of the top 6 QBs.

But why would they trade up to get a top 6 QB when one would be sitting right there at 11?

I mean that if alex doesn't work out they'll go for one of the top 6 QBs (maybe 7 if you throw in Pike), but they would likely trade up if possible, to grab one of the top 2 -- Locker or Clausen
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Courtesy of the Great Blue North Draft, who gave the draft order, the Niners are currently on the clock for the 11th and 15th overall picks. The good news is that the Panthers have a murderers row of games coming up, which should push their selection back up the board. The bad news is that the worst six teams are so bad that they may never drift further up the board than number 7. We will see.

The numbers on the end is winning percentage of opponents. The lower the winning percentage, the higher the draft selection.

Here is the projection I see for the draft at this point.

1 St. Louis 0-7 .535
Jake Locker- I'll stick with the guy with the strongest arm and biggest upside to go first overall, to revamp this terrible offense.
2 Tampa Bay 0-7 .584
Ndamukong Suh- The Bucs have to rebuild, and Suh has been dominant this year. Could provide the best interior defender on the team since Warren Sapp.
3 Tennessee 0-6 .553
Sam Bradford- So many variables for Bradford. Will his surgery go well, and when will he return to throwing the ball. Will he be able to work out for scouts early enough before the draft for a proper evaluation.
4 Kansas City 1-6 .548
Eric Berry- The team has a billion needs, and Berry is simply too good to slide much further. A real difference maker from Day One, which they desperately need.
5 Cleveland 1-6 .558
Jimmy Clausen- Brady Quinn is going out the door, and Derek Anderson is currently ranked 35th in the NFL. Enter the newest kid from Notre Dame.
6 Detroit 1-5 .553
Gerald McCoy- The Lions need a stellar defender up the middle, and McCoy provides explosiveness.
7 Washington 2-5 .500
Russell Okung- The first OT off the board, and a good pick for a team that is going to probably lose Chris Samuels for good.
8 Oakland 2-5 .543
Taylor Mays- Al Davis loves speed, and guys who hit. Mays gives his team both, and in the end, his decision is the only one that matters.
9 Seattle 2-4 .446
Dez Bryant- The Seahawks do have other needs, but witness the Niners come to life with Crabtree. To match the Niners in this area, the team picks up this year's stud WR, in Bryant.
10 Miami 2-4 .543
Ricky Sapp- Just taking a hunch that Sapp runs a blazing forty time, looks ultra athletic, and the Dolphins look for a long-term replacement to the Porter-Taylor OLB combo.
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 2-4 .567
Charles Brown- As predicted a few weeks ago, the USC LT is beginning to blaze up the board. Both writers for NFL Draft Scout now have him in the first round. He's just a super athletic kid, with lots of room to grow.
12 Buffalo 3-4 .471
Trent Williams- The Bills need help at OT, and Williams is a good prospect who can come in to keep Trent Edwards upright and alive.
13 Jacksonville 3-3 .433
Carlos Dunlap- Nobody knows what his position will be at the next level, but he can start from Day One as the LDE for the Jags, and move inside on passing downs.
14 San Diego 3-3 .467
Arthur Jones- The team needs to rebuild its DL, which is struggling against the run in 2009. Jones takes over at LDE.
15 San Francisco 3-3 .470
CJ Spiller- The Niners' second first rounder is a luxury pick, and this is quite a luxury. Spiller provides world class speed, a third down back, a punt and kickoff return specialist (which may be the team's biggest need going into 2010), and an explosive receiver in the flats. People scoffed when Chris Johnson was drafted out of East Carolina by the Titans. The same for Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew. Nobody laughs anymore. Speed kills. This team will be explosive with Crabtree, Spiller, Davis, Gore, Morgan.


MD, you must be assuming Smith is the answer, because if not, I believe we will do all we can to trade up and pick one of the top 6 QBs.

But why would they trade up to get a top 6 QB when one would be sitting right there at 11?

I mean that if alex doesn't work out they'll go for one of the top 6 QBs (maybe 7 if you throw in Pike), but they would likely trade up if possible, to grab one of the top 2 -- Locker or Clausen

I could see that. This is for anybody exactly how good is Locker? Living in DC you don't see any Pac 10 games except USC. I remember him being very mobile when I saw them last year but that's it. None of these other qb's impress me at all. I think Clausen needs another year, but after what happened to Bradford I wouldn't blame him for coming out.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

I don't think there are a lot of teams licking their chops to draft a QB who already has a surgically repaired shoulder and who will have been out of the game for nearly a year before he can return.

Even when a shoulder seems ok after a surgery it can still need further repair, see Alex Smith last year.

He'll get drafted sure, but I doubt many teams will be willing to give him 30 million guaranteed.

The NFL is a QB league and the best teams have stars at the position. Bradford may not go top 5 but I would bet the ranch that he goes in round 1. There are 10 teams out of 32 that need a QB. 6 which have a desparate need for 1 (Wash, STL, Car, Buff, Clev,Tenn) and another 4 that will also seriously be looking for a future QB( Seat, Minn, Jax, Miami)

I don't this Minny or Miami will be in the QB market, STL has a good QB but nothing around him.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.

Drafting that high I want the player to get on the field, Dez would have a better shot getting serious playing time compared to Spiller. Both would be great additions but don't think we would shy away from the possibility.

I see what you're saying. I hate to say this, but Frank is not getting any younger and the beating he's been taking is finally starting to show. We've seen a lot more of Coffee this year than I seriously thought we would. If we sign Spiller, trust me, he will see the field quite often whether it be at running back or wide receiver.

A good example is Percy Harvin. He was draft in the first round (22nd) and he doesn't play every down. Sydney Rice and Berrian are starting and the RB is of course AP. But Harvin still gets a lot of playing time because of his versatility. You can put him as a RB or a WR and he gets in about 80% of the time. And Harvin is the KO returner. I think Spiller can play the same role for us as a rookie and like SF69ers said, Gore is not getting any younger and Gore seems to have yearly ankle injuries that causes him to miss games.

I really feel that Spiller can really complete our team by giving us that dynamic , speedy playmaker. Like MadDog says, a Chris Johnson for us. If Alex works out, we have a solid QB throwing to Crabtree and Morgan. Brandon Jones has potential to be the speedy WR. Gore the tough runner. Spiller will be that home run hitter.

We just need an o-line which I think we will address with our first 1st round pick (OT) and in the 2nd rd and beyond for Guards.
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Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.

Drafting that high I want the player to get on the field, Dez would have a better shot getting serious playing time compared to Spiller. Both would be great additions but don't think we would shy away from the possibility.

I see what you're saying. I hate to say this, but Frank is not getting any younger and the beating he's been taking is finally starting to show. We've seen a lot more of Coffee this year than I seriously thought we would. If we sign Spiller, trust me, he will see the field quite often whether it be at running back or wide receiver.

A good example is Percy Harvin. He was draft in the first round (22nd) and he doesn't play every down. Sydney Rice and Berrian are starting and the RB is of course AP. But Harvin still gets a lot of playing time because of his versatility. You can put him as a RB or a WR and he gets in about 80% of the time. And Harvin is the KO returner. I think Spiller can play the same role for us as a rookie and like SF69ers said, Gore is not getting any younger and Gore seems to have yearly ankle injuries that causes him to miss games.

I really feel that Spiller can really complete our team by giving us that dynamic , speedy playmaker. Like MadDog says, a Chris Johnson for us. If Alex works out, we have a solid QB throwing to Crabtree and Morgan. Brandon Jones has potential to be the speedy WR. Gore the tough runner. Spiller will be that home run hitter.

We just need an o-line which I think we will address with our first 1st round pick (OT) and in the 2nd rd and beyond for Guards.

Very true....but I have a lil insight on a specific team. My buddy is a Browns fan, I know sad isn't it . Anyways they are in dire need of a RB, their OL is actually not too bad and their WR's are pretty good as well. What they are missing is a RB, Lewis is sucking major ass and isn't getting it done. I would seriously consider them in the market for Spiller or Best (if he declares).