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2010 NFL Draft Projections- Picks 1-15: October 27

Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

LOL... Great. Crabtree and Bryant and no healthy QB to get them the ball after our QB gets crushed every week. Offensive line , offensive line, offensive line. Keep saying that because that is what needs to be addressed more than anything and certainly more than a WR.
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Courtesy of the Great Blue North Draft, who gave the draft order, the Niners are currently on the clock for the 11th and 15th overall picks. The good news is that the Panthers have a murderers row of games coming up, which should push their selection back up the board. The bad news is that the worst six teams are so bad that they may never drift further up the board than number 7. We will see.

The numbers on the end is winning percentage of opponents. The lower the winning percentage, the higher the draft selection.

Here is the projection I see for the draft at this point.

1 St. Louis 0-7 .535
Jake Locker- I'll stick with the guy with the strongest arm and biggest upside to go first overall, to revamp this terrible offense.
2 Tampa Bay 0-7 .584
Ndamukong Suh- The Bucs have to rebuild, and Suh has been dominant this year. Could provide the best interior defender on the team since Warren Sapp.
3 Tennessee 0-6 .553
Sam Bradford- So many variables for Bradford. Will his surgery go well, and when will he return to throwing the ball. Will he be able to work out for scouts early enough before the draft for a proper evaluation.
4 Kansas City 1-6 .548
Eric Berry- The team has a billion needs, and Berry is simply too good to slide much further. A real difference maker from Day One, which they desperately need.
5 Cleveland 1-6 .558
Jimmy Clausen- Brady Quinn is going out the door, and Derek Anderson is currently ranked 35th in the NFL. Enter the newest kid from Notre Dame.
6 Detroit 1-5 .553
Gerald McCoy- The Lions need a stellar defender up the middle, and McCoy provides explosiveness.
7 Washington 2-5 .500
Russell Okung- The first OT off the board, and a good pick for a team that is going to probably lose Chris Samuels for good.
8 Oakland 2-5 .543
Taylor Mays- Al Davis loves speed, and guys who hit. Mays gives his team both, and in the end, his decision is the only one that matters.
9 Seattle 2-4 .446
Dez Bryant- The Seahawks do have other needs, but witness the Niners come to life with Crabtree. To match the Niners in this area, the team picks up this year's stud WR, in Bryant.
10 Miami 2-4 .543
Ricky Sapp- Just taking a hunch that Sapp runs a blazing forty time, looks ultra athletic, and the Dolphins look for a long-term replacement to the Porter-Taylor OLB combo.
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 2-4 .567
Charles Brown- As predicted a few weeks ago, the USC LT is beginning to blaze up the board. Both writers for NFL Draft Scout now have him in the first round. He's just a super athletic kid, with lots of room to grow.
12 Buffalo 3-4 .471
Trent Williams- The Bills need help at OT, and Williams is a good prospect who can come in to keep Trent Edwards upright and alive.
13 Jacksonville 3-3 .433
Carlos Dunlap- Nobody knows what his position will be at the next level, but he can start from Day One as the LDE for the Jags, and move inside on passing downs.
14 San Diego 3-3 .467
Arthur Jones- The team needs to rebuild its DL, which is struggling against the run in 2009. Jones takes over at LDE.
15 San Francisco 3-3 .470
CJ Spiller- The Niners' second first rounder is a luxury pick, and this is quite a luxury. Spiller provides world class speed, a third down back, a punt and kickoff return specialist (which may be the team's biggest need going into 2010), and an explosive receiver in the flats. People scoffed when Chris Johnson was drafted out of East Carolina by the Titans. The same for Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew. Nobody laughs anymore. Speed kills. This team will be explosive with Crabtree, Spiller, Davis, Gore, Morgan.


MD, you must be assuming Smith is the answer, because if not, I believe we will do all we can to trade up and pick one of the top 6 QBs.

No way Singletary would trade both of his 1st round picks for a QB. Especially when none of them jump out as the top tier QB that everyone covets.
Originally posted by tohara3:
I would rather have Jerry Hughes & CJ Spiller.

That would be an awesome first round.

I would still go CJ Spiller and Mike Iupati in the first.
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

I don't think there are a lot of teams licking their chops to draft a QB who already has a surgically repaired shoulder and who will have been out of the game for nearly a year before he can return.

Even when a shoulder seems ok after a surgery it can still need further repair, see Alex Smith last year.

He'll get drafted sure, but I doubt many teams will be willing to give him 30 million guaranteed.

The NFL is a QB league and the best teams have stars at the position. Bradford may not go top 5 but I would bet the ranch that he goes in round 1. There are 10 teams out of 32 that need a QB. 6 which have a desparate need for 1 (Wash, STL, Car, Buff, Clev,Tenn) and another 4 that will also seriously be looking for a future QB( Seat, Minn, Jax, Miami)
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

LOL... Great. Crabtree and Bryant and no healthy QB to get them the ball after our QB gets crushed every week. Offensive line , offensive line, offensive line. Keep saying that because that is what needs to be addressed more than anything and certainly more than a WR.

O Line will be addressed, and yes Bryant is a possibility.
As of today... I would go with:

Charles Brown 1A
Jerry Hughes 1B

While Spiller would be great to have I just think the Niners have to address the Tackle spot and pass rush first. We simply our not in a position to draft for luxury.
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
As of today... I would go with:

Charles Brown 1A
Jerry Hughes 1B

While Spiller would be great to have I just think the Niners have to address the Tackle spot and pass rush first. We simply our not in a position to draft for luxury.

Good selection, but what about CJ Spiller and Mike Iupati in the first and maybe Eric Norwood/Brandon Graham in the 2nd or 3rd?

I think that would work out pretty well. We need a gamebraker at running back to spell Frank. I've been saying this since last offseason, I was not impressed with Glen Coffee and now it's showing that my projections have been pretty accurate.
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

We don't need a receiver in the 1st. Crabtree, Morgan and Jones should be a good enough combination at receiver and Vernon Davis has emerged as our number one option in the passing attack.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

We don't need a receiver in the 1st. Crabtree, Morgan and Jones should be a good enough combination at receiver and Vernon Davis has emerged as our number one option in the passing attack.

We have seen nothing from Jones that convinces me we are "set". All I said was its a luxury pick, just like MD has us taking Spiller as a luxury. If Dez is there when we pick.....it could happen.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Either way, the priorities are wrong, but if Bryant clearly grades out ahead of say Charles Brown then sure go for it. But I'm telling you with regards to the OL FA pool, there won't be anything there because all the big names are likely to be re-signed. Don't expect any help there unless you think Deuce Lutui is gonna be the savior.

I just think it's ridiculous when people salivate over skill position players when we barely run enough offensive plays for Gore, VD, Morgan, and now Crabs too. We lack any sort of consistency on offense, and go 3 and out constantly because one play always gets blown up due to OL failure, penalties or bad blocking.
[ Edited by znk916 on Oct 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM ]
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.

Would you turn down the idea of having Maclin and Jackson on the 9ers? Crabtree and Bryant would be down right nasty.

Did it occur to you that maybe they could afford to take those guys because their OL is considered one of the best in the league?

Did it ever occur to you that we can draft O Linemen in other rounds besides the first? We may go after a few guys in FA so we can burn a first on a luxury pick and he would be needed. We lose 3 WR's at the end of the year and we need a KR/PR, Dez would fit in perfectly.

Bryant is awesome but I wouldn't take him. If you want a KR/PR, CJ Spiller is your man.

Drafting that high I want the player to get on the field, Dez would have a better shot getting serious playing time compared to Spiller. Both would be great additions but don't think we would shy away from the possibility.
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