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2010 NFL Draft Projections- Picks 1-15: October 27

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

one, he is injury prone, and would not touch him, 2nd, I dont get the hype for Bradford, he isnt that good, and its proven, he lost a couple WR's and OL and looked terrible, thats why id stay far away from Bradford, or any QB in 2010 draft not named Clausen or Locker.
Wouldn't be surprised to see them take Brown. Sure, he's not a mauler, but like Okung he's just incredibly technically sound and when you add on superb athleticism to a guy like that, you have the makings of a potential star player.

The other picks. Ah, it's early. So, leeway I'll give. Wouldn't be opposed to Spiller as long as the other pick is an OL.
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Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

This happened THIS year. Crabtree was a top 5 talent and he dropped to 10th because of his injury.

Teams will be leary of investing that much money on potentially damaged goods. You could expect a team to pick an injured college star late in the first round ala Willis McGahee. That is where Bradford will realistically go.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

one, he is injury prone, and would not touch him, 2nd, I dont get the hype for Bradford, he isnt that good, and its proven, he lost a couple WR's and OL and looked terrible, thats why id stay far away from Bradford, or any QB in 2010 draft not named Clausen or Locker.

You might not take him but that doesnt mean he wont go as a top 5 pick. There are at least 3 bottom teams that are in dire need of a QB and Bradford is without question one of the top 3 QBs.

As for being injury prone.. well his injury could have happened to any QB. He isnt the first nor will he be the last who has separated a shoulder after a huge DL or LB lands on him. He got hurt. Does this mean that Tom Brady is injury prone too because he got hurt and missed the entire year? What about Carson Palmer?

Finally.. you said he isnt all that good and that it is proven. Perhaps you need to rethink that. What's been proved??? The only thing that is fact is that he was incredible last year, won the Heisman Trophy, threw 50 tds compared to 8 picks,and completed almost 70% of his passes. Ya.. he sucks.
[ Edited by Ninerjohn on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM ]
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

one, he is injury prone, and would not touch him, 2nd, I dont get the hype for Bradford, he isnt that good, and its proven, he lost a couple WR's and OL and looked terrible, thats why id stay far away from Bradford, or any QB in 2010 draft not named Clausen or Locker.

You might not take him but that doesnt mean he wont go as a top 5 pick. There are at least 3 bottom teams that are in dire need of a QB and Bradford is without question one of the top 3 QBs.

As for being injury prone.. well his injury could have happened to any QB. He isnt the first nor will he be the last who has separated a shoulder after a huge DL or LB lands on him. He got hurt. Does this mean that Tom Brady is injury prone too because he got hurt and missed the entire year? What about Carson Palmer?

Finally.. you said he isnt all that good and that it is proven. Perhaps you need to rethink that. What's been proved??? The only thing that is fact is that he was incredible last year, won the Heisman Trophy, threw 50 tds compared to 8 picks,and completed almost 70% of his passes. Ya.. he sucks.

The idea that he's injury prone is so bogus. He gets hurt, hurries back, reaggravates the injury and needs surgery. That does not make him injury prone. And you have NO IDEA what he would have looked like this year without the same surrounding cast. He was hurt in the first game and the returning game, HE PLAYED ONE GAME THIS YEAR! and looked just fine.
[ Edited by IdentityCrisis on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM ]
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Here is the projection I see for the draft at this point.

1 St. Louis 0-7 .535
Jake Locker
2 Tampa Bay 0-7 .584
Ndamukong Suh
3 Tennessee 0-6 .553
Sam Bradford
4 Kansas City 1-6 .548
Eric Berry-
5 Cleveland 1-6 .558
Jimmy Clausen-
6 Detroit 1-5 .553
Gerald McCoy
7 Washington 2-5 .500
Russell Okung-
8 Oakland 2-5 .543
Taylor Mays
9 Seattle 2-4 .446
Dez Bryant
10 Miami 2-4 .543
Ricky Sapp
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 2-4 .567
Charles Brown-
12 Buffalo 3-4 .471
Trent Williams
13 Jacksonville 3-3 .433
Carlos Dunlap
14 San Diego 3-3 .467
Arthur Jones
15 San Francisco 3-3 .470
CJ Spiller


As always

I have a few projections that I have to nitpick about

Like AB said I have a hard time believing Bradford goes that high. I'm not sure what it is about him but I don't think he's going to hold up very well. Like many have said he's a big injury risk now and to be taken that high..........

Regarding Cleveland, I really don't think Clausen will declare this year. Obviously its a 50/50 chance but I expect him to stay, they will tell him the statistics about the success rate of QB's that stay 4 years and I think he listens to the advise.

Seattle is going to need a QB and OT in my eyes, Hasselbeck will be 35 next year and his body cant take much more abuse. Walter Jones is 35 and it seems like he may be on the way out as well. Dez does make a luxury sense for them but I think they may go the safer route and go after maybe Trent Williams.

Your prediction with Charles Brown makes sense and if the main skill guys are gone...Berry, Dez, Sapp then OT it is!!!!

Now your 2nd pick is interesting, very interesting. I'm surprised you would go with another RB after we just took Coffee. I would think we would finally go after a passing rushing specialist. I'm assuming you have us targeting an OLB in the 2nd or possibly the 3rd. For s**ts and giggles who would be your alternate selection for this pick?
[ Edited by jreff22 on Oct 28, 2009 at 7:34 AM ]
Originally posted by znk916:
No way Seattle goes WR. They already have a ton invested into Housh, Burleson, and Branch. Not to mention Carlson as well. They need the same thing we do, OL or something on defense.

Agree. I'd be shocked if they took a WR. Housh and Burleson are a pretty nice duo. They'll be wanting to protect their Qb. An OT makes a lot of sense.
Originally posted by strickac:
Originally posted by znk916:
No way Seattle goes WR. They already have a ton invested into Housh, Burleson, and Branch. Not to mention Carlson as well. They need the same thing we do, OL or something on defense.

Agree. I'd be shocked if they took a WR. Housh and Burleson are a pretty nice duo. They'll be wanting to protect their Qb. An OT makes a lot of sense.

Ya, Walter Jones is pretty much done. I would book Seattle down for a LT like Okung or Brown, if indeed his stock has climbed up this far.
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
sorry to disagree MD, but no way Bradford goes that high, even if healthy, i wouldnt touch him.

everyone flipping out about bradford is out of their minds.

He will certainly be drafted that high in my mind. If his surgery goes well then teams will be just fine with him. He would have gone that high last year and he still remains one of the top prospects at QB. People always overreact about draft status midseason like this.

Why exactly wouldn't you touch him if he was healthy?

I don't think there are a lot of teams licking their chops to draft a QB who already has a surgically repaired shoulder and who will have been out of the game for nearly a year before he can return.

Even when a shoulder seems ok after a surgery it can still need further repair, see Alex Smith last year.

He'll get drafted sure, but I doubt many teams will be willing to give him 30 million guaranteed.
Love it. Spiller Time!
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Courtesy of the Great Blue North Draft, who gave the draft order, the Niners are currently on the clock for the 11th and 15th overall picks. The good news is that the Panthers have a murderers row of games coming up, which should push their selection back up the board. The bad news is that the worst six teams are so bad that they may never drift further up the board than number 7. We will see.

The numbers on the end is winning percentage of opponents. The lower the winning percentage, the higher the draft selection.

Here is the projection I see for the draft at this point.

1 St. Louis 0-7 .535
Jake Locker- I'll stick with the guy with the strongest arm and biggest upside to go first overall, to revamp this terrible offense.
2 Tampa Bay 0-7 .584
Ndamukong Suh- The Bucs have to rebuild, and Suh has been dominant this year. Could provide the best interior defender on the team since Warren Sapp.
3 Tennessee 0-6 .553
Sam Bradford- So many variables for Bradford. Will his surgery go well, and when will he return to throwing the ball. Will he be able to work out for scouts early enough before the draft for a proper evaluation.
4 Kansas City 1-6 .548
Eric Berry- The team has a billion needs, and Berry is simply too good to slide much further. A real difference maker from Day One, which they desperately need.
5 Cleveland 1-6 .558
Jimmy Clausen- Brady Quinn is going out the door, and Derek Anderson is currently ranked 35th in the NFL. Enter the newest kid from Notre Dame.
6 Detroit 1-5 .553
Gerald McCoy- The Lions need a stellar defender up the middle, and McCoy provides explosiveness.
7 Washington 2-5 .500
Russell Okung- The first OT off the board, and a good pick for a team that is going to probably lose Chris Samuels for good.
8 Oakland 2-5 .543
Taylor Mays- Al Davis loves speed, and guys who hit. Mays gives his team both, and in the end, his decision is the only one that matters.
9 Seattle 2-4 .446
Dez Bryant- The Seahawks do have other needs, but witness the Niners come to life with Crabtree. To match the Niners in this area, the team picks up this year's stud WR, in Bryant.
10 Miami 2-4 .543
Ricky Sapp- Just taking a hunch that Sapp runs a blazing forty time, looks ultra athletic, and the Dolphins look for a long-term replacement to the Porter-Taylor OLB combo.
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 2-4 .567
Charles Brown- As predicted a few weeks ago, the USC LT is beginning to blaze up the board. Both writers for NFL Draft Scout now have him in the first round. He's just a super athletic kid, with lots of room to grow.
12 Buffalo 3-4 .471
Trent Williams- The Bills need help at OT, and Williams is a good prospect who can come in to keep Trent Edwards upright and alive.
13 Jacksonville 3-3 .433
Carlos Dunlap- Nobody knows what his position will be at the next level, but he can start from Day One as the LDE for the Jags, and move inside on passing downs.
14 San Diego 3-3 .467
Arthur Jones- The team needs to rebuild its DL, which is struggling against the run in 2009. Jones takes over at LDE.
15 San Francisco 3-3 .470
CJ Spiller- The Niners' second first rounder is a luxury pick, and this is quite a luxury. Spiller provides world class speed, a third down back, a punt and kickoff return specialist (which may be the team's biggest need going into 2010), and an explosive receiver in the flats. People scoffed when Chris Johnson was drafted out of East Carolina by the Titans. The same for Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew. Nobody laughs anymore. Speed kills. This team will be explosive with Crabtree, Spiller, Davis, Gore, Morgan.


MD, you must be assuming Smith is the answer, because if not, I believe we will do all we can to trade up and pick one of the top 6 QBs.

But why would they trade up to get a top 6 QB when one would be sitting right there at 11?
We def address the Ol which is good, and who doesn't love some spiller!! We have to remember that Frank is hurt, and spill would be a nice weapon!!!
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well
Originally posted by valrod33:
Imagine if we got Dez Bryant. Another Stud WR and KR/PR as well

Good idea, let's copy the Lions and Hawks and keep pouring picks and money into WR position.