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Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.

Nobody knows that right now. DHB could turn into an all star and Crabs could blow chunks. That's why contracts are usually based on where ppl are drafted, rather than on the opinions of self-appointed draft gurus.

Give him a contract larger than what a "normal" top ten pick would get, but we shouldn't have to pay him top 5 money based on purely on the idea he has more "potential" than somebody taken in front of him.
crabtree will sign. the only thing im thinking is what is he hiding? if he was sure of his talents he would sign his contract and prove it and get payed if he proves his worth, in his 2nd contract or extention. i think its his agent whos stalling everything but if crabtree really wants to play he should can him and get another agent and get the job done. hes still gonna make plenty of money. and all these people bashing bey, karma's a b***h, maybe al davis made the right choice. u never know until they actually play. right now i would like bey a lot more than crabtree's uncooperative ass.
he just keeps digging a bigger grave for himself
Originally posted by Overkill:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.

Nobody knows that right now. DHB could turn into an all star and Crabs could blow chunks. That's why contracts are usually based on where ppl are drafted, rather than on the opinions of self-appointed draft gurus.

Give him a contract larger than what a "normal" top ten pick would get, but we shouldn't have to pay him top 5 money based on purely on the idea he has more "potential" than somebody taken in front of him.

my post wasn't to say he IS going to be the best player in nfl. it was to say he was probably the best college player coming into the draft.
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by Overkill:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.

Nobody knows that right now. DHB could turn into an all star and Crabs could blow chunks. That's why contracts are usually based on where ppl are drafted, rather than on the opinions of self-appointed draft gurus.

Give him a contract larger than what a "normal" top ten pick would get, but we shouldn't have to pay him top 5 money based on purely on the idea he has more "potential" than somebody taken in front of him.

my post wasn't to say he IS going to be the best player in nfl. it was to say he was probably the best college player coming into the draft.

And I'm saying we shouldn't pay him more simply because he was, perhaps, the best college player in the draft. This isn't college - its the nfl.

I have no problem paying him more than he would have otherwise gotten for going #10 overall (its not my money), but we can't base a contract on his perceived value or his college career. That makes no sense to me.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
wow
Originally posted by Overkill:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by Overkill:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.

Nobody knows that right now. DHB could turn into an all star and Crabs could blow chunks. That's why contracts are usually based on where ppl are drafted, rather than on the opinions of self-appointed draft gurus.

Give him a contract larger than what a "normal" top ten pick would get, but we shouldn't have to pay him top 5 money based on purely on the idea he has more "potential" than somebody taken in front of him.

my post wasn't to say he IS going to be the best player in nfl. it was to say he was probably the best college player coming into the draft.

And I'm saying we shouldn't pay him more simply because he was, perhaps, the best college player in the draft. This isn't college - its the nfl.

I have no problem paying him more than he would have otherwise gotten for going #10 overall (its not my money), but we can't base a contract on his perceived value or his college career. That makes no sense to me.

I also have no big proplem paying MC based on his Potential to perform in the NFL based on his past performance's in college..people get paid on poteintial all the time in the private sector....The kicker is The Company doing the paying is the one that decides how much that person is going to recieve, and if they don't agree to each other terms ,then the Company goes out and gets some one else...in some ways I do wish we knew what the real numbers of the contract was/is, but it's good IMO,[ and a compliment to both parties] that the contract information has not become puplic.. personaly I would hate to lose That pick, [#10 in the First], but i agree with the niners front office standing their ground on this one.
[ Edited by highway49 on Aug 21, 2009 at 2:49 PM ]
Originally posted by Overkill:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by Overkill:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.

Nobody knows that right now. DHB could turn into an all star and Crabs could blow chunks. That's why contracts are usually based on where ppl are drafted, rather than on the opinions of self-appointed draft gurus.

Give him a contract larger than what a "normal" top ten pick would get, but we shouldn't have to pay him top 5 money based on purely on the idea he has more "potential" than somebody taken in front of him.

my post wasn't to say he IS going to be the best player in nfl. it was to say he was probably the best college player coming into the draft.

And I'm saying we shouldn't pay him more simply because he was, perhaps, the best college player in the draft. This isn't college - its the nfl.

I have no problem paying him more than he would have otherwise gotten for going #10 overall (its not my money), but we can't base a contract on his perceived value or his college career. That makes no sense to me.

100% with that. my intention was never to say we should pay him that kind of bucks. it was unfortunate for him that he fell that far and he should accept it, then PROVE on the field he deserves more.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
he will light it up

...in 2010.
Pay him the same as dhb and get him on the field. I'd like to not waste one of are 1st on another wr. We need to improve in more area's next season so lets pay the man we drafted. looking for a Oline player or Front 7 on D. unless we need a saftey which i think r. smith will see playing time this season and i think he shows up.
[ Edited by TheGoldDiggerrrr on Aug 21, 2009 at 10:24 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.

He's Arguably the top 3 in talent in this draft. But he was taking 10th. Next time run the 40 then get the surgery.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
People need to relax. You guys act like no one's ever held out before. Crabtree will get signed and he will light it up.

He won't light it up this year, he needs to just sign already, longer he stays out the less he will contribute.
Originally posted by Ether:
This Michael Crabtree BS about him willing to sit next year. I believe it is, because next year, we can select Dez Bryant, who will be better than Michael Craptree.

6'2, 210 pounds. 1480 yards last year, 19 touchdowns.

He is Michael Crab"tree million more den Heyward Bey please" except with a better attitude. Oh, and he was in a REAL offense too, that ran the ball.

Well, it would mean we would be drafting a receiver again with the #1 instead of using the pick for other positions of need. Drafting too many receivers in a row with the #1 is how a team turns into the Lions.
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by 49ersNorcal:
All the ESPN analysts said on draft day that Michael Crabtree was the best WR coming out of college. And I agree with them, only the Raiders are crazy enough to draft someone else THAN Mr. Crabtree. He should have been the first WR drafted this year just Al Davis is crazy. I say pay him the money so he doesn't go all Anquan Boldin on us and get pissed off cause we undervalued him. And with Brandon Jones getting hurt he can just wait out longer until he gets what he wants cause the 49ers have no one else at the WR position for the long term except for Josh Morgan.

not just top receiver. he was arguably the best PLAYER in the draft.

Nine teams we know of obviously didn't feel that way.
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