Originally posted by GoFD74:
Originally posted by 23zack80:
Originally posted by GoFD74:
Originally posted by alwaysa49erfan:
I can't believe Tim Tebow is being mentioned as a NFL QB in this thread.
Tons of running QB's just make plays in college. His jump pass is cute and all but unless he gets drafted by Urban Meyer somehow he is going to fail. Average passer at best.
An average passer doesn't make these types of accurate passes, especially in a conference championship game against the top defense in the country with your big playmaker on the sideline...and this wasn't even one of Tebow's better games.
You might need to reassess your ability to define "average passer."
"Average passers" can hit wide open targets. That video shows more about his receiver's ability to get seperation than Tebow's accuracy. It's not that hard to complete a pass when there is no pressure on you and your receiver has 3 or 4 yards of seperation.
Clearly not all of those WRs were "wide open targets," but it doesn't really matter. You've made up your mind on the guy, even though he was throwing darts to covered WRs in the end-zone and over the middle...that's cool if you choose to ignore that. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
This is what I see from the youtube clip you posted.
0:34- 3 players by the receiver when he makes the catch; closest player makes the tackle and is about three yards away when the receiver makes the catch.
0:53- You can't see much from this highlight, he put the ball low and outside where only his receiver could catch it. This seems to be Tebow's best pass.
1:33- Play-action, wide receiver runs a stop and go and burns the corner back. The wide receiver has 2-3 yards of seperation.
1:47- Play-action, Tebow throws over the middle to a receiver who has an Alabama player right behind him. There was no player between the line of scrimmage and the receiver. The video is too blurry to see how close he was.
1:52- Slow motion throw to a wide open player for a touchdown. No one is near the receiver.
2:18- The patented Tebow play action, he steps forward a step as if he is running then he steps back and makes the throw to a receiver who has 2 yards between him and the closest defender.
3:03- Play action, throw is a little over-thrown, but still a pretty good pass against decent coverage.
3:11- Slow motion throw that nearly flew over the receivers head, the receiver made a good leaping grab to catch it.
3:15- Another slow motion throw that is actually very good. Tebow put the ball where only his receiver could get it.
Most of Tebow's throws are set up with play-action. This, and the talent around him really make him look better than he is. Tebow's ability to run will hurt his ability to pass in the pros because he can run over everyone in college. He will get killed by players like Patrick Willis, Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Justin Smith, etc. in the NFL. He will have to learn how to play quarterback in a pro system.
I think Tebow could eventually become a quarterback in the NFL, just like Pat White. He has that "it" factor which every successful quarterback has. He wont understand how to play in a pro system so he will need a year or two to learn before he starts. He should be successful if he lasts into the second round so he can actually sit and learn how to play quarterback in the NFL. Saying that, I hope he gets drafted number 1 overall next year to a team as bad as Detroit so he fails miserably due to the ridiculous expectations put on that draft spot.