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Which UDFA acquisition are you most excited about?

Which UDFA acquisition are you most excited about?

  • kj11aw
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Kory Sheets - poor mans Chris Johnson, will definitely be that change of pace RB for the 49ers.

very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Why do you say that??

chris johnson ran a 4.24, this kid ran in the high 4.4's which makes him more like a very poor man's felix jones

I'm not even looking at their 40 times, but more as what they do as a RB. Both are good outside runners, both are patient and have that second gear once they come off their blocks. Only thing Johnson has to Sheets is, proven production in the NFL and elite speed. The styles are comparable, but when I said poor mans, I meant because of the lack of speed of Sheets.

and going undrafted compared to being a first round pick is what i was referring to as a very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Oh I get it you were being funny.

that and i dont think this kid has half the talent of chris johnson

Why, cause he doesn't run a 4.24 40?? Or cause he wasn't drafted in the 1st round?? Or because its just your simple opinion and have no other reason or reasons??

because i saw a few Purdue games, and he didnt stand out to me as anything special. becuase he's a terrible pass blocker. because he was the feature back for only one year, and topped 100 yards just three times in that year. because in 5 of his games last year he didnt even reach 4.0 YPC

Johnson was the same in college, only made a break through performance when he was a Senior, wasn't really a good pass-blocker, had some durability issues. And to say Sheets doesn't have half the talent as Johnson, when Sheets has 53 total TD's in his career to what Johnson had in his college career with only 43 total.

and johnson's senior campaign was much better than sheets.

Johnson - 236/1423/6.0/17TD's rushing and 37/528/6TD's recieving
Sheets - 234/1131/4.8/16TD's rushing and 37/253/1TD recieving

Johnson also had 36 kick returns, for 1,009 yards and a touch, compared to sheets 14 returns for 259 yards. Thats ten yards less per return on average.

and you think this guy will beat out rossum for the return duties? come on.
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Originally posted by kj11aw:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kory Sheets - poor mans Chris Johnson, will definitely be that change of pace RB for the 49ers.

very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Why do you say that??

chris johnson ran a 4.24, this kid ran in the high 4.4's which makes him more like a very poor man's felix jones

I'm not even looking at their 40 times, but more as what they do as a RB. Both are good outside runners, both are patient and have that second gear once they come off their blocks. Only thing Johnson has to Sheets is, proven production in the NFL and elite speed. The styles are comparable, but when I said poor mans, I meant because of the lack of speed of Sheets.

and going undrafted compared to being a first round pick is what i was referring to as a very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Oh I get it you were being funny.

that and i dont think this kid has half the talent of chris johnson

Why, cause he doesn't run a 4.24 40?? Or cause he wasn't drafted in the 1st round?? Or because its just your simple opinion and have no other reason or reasons??

because i saw a few Purdue games, and he didnt stand out to me as anything special. becuase he's a terrible pass blocker. because he was the feature back for only one year, and topped 100 yards just three times in that year. because in 5 of his games last year he didnt even reach 4.0 YPC

Johnson was the same in college, only made a break through performance when he was a Senior, wasn't really a good pass-blocker, had some durability issues. And to say Sheets doesn't have half the talent as Johnson, when Sheets has 53 total TD's in his career to what Johnson had in his college career with only 43 total.

and johnson's senior campaign was much better than sheets.

Johnson - 236/1423/6.0/17TD's rushing and 37/528/6TD's recieving
Sheets - 234/1131/4.8/16TD's rushing and 37/253/1TD recieving

Johnson also had 36 kick returns, for 1,009 yards and a touch, compared to sheets 14 returns for 259 yards. Thats ten yards less per return on average.

and you think this guy will beat out rossum for the return duties? come on.

Well then, there you go, he not only does have half the talent, hes just as good. No one, ever said anything about being better than Chris Jonson did they??

And no one ever said anything about beating out Rossum, but really just being another KR, you know there are two when they take the field.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Kory Sheets - poor mans Chris Johnson, will definitely be that change of pace RB for the 49ers.

very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Why do you say that??

chris johnson ran a 4.24, this kid ran in the high 4.4's which makes him more like a very poor man's felix jones

I'm not even looking at their 40 times, but more as what they do as a RB. Both are good outside runners, both are patient and have that second gear once they come off their blocks. Only thing Johnson has to Sheets is, proven production in the NFL and elite speed. The styles are comparable, but when I said poor mans, I meant because of the lack of speed of Sheets.

and going undrafted compared to being a first round pick is what i was referring to as a very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Oh I get it you were being funny.

that and i dont think this kid has half the talent of chris johnson

Why, cause he doesn't run a 4.24 40?? Or cause he wasn't drafted in the 1st round?? Or because its just your simple opinion and have no other reason or reasons??

because i saw a few Purdue games, and he didnt stand out to me as anything special. becuase he's a terrible pass blocker. because he was the feature back for only one year, and topped 100 yards just three times in that year. because in 5 of his games last year he didnt even reach 4.0 YPC

Johnson was the same in college, only made a break through performance when he was a Senior, wasn't really a good pass-blocker, had some durability issues. And to say Sheets doesn't have half the talent as Johnson, when Sheets has 53 total TD's in his career to what Johnson had in his college career with only 43 total.

and johnson's senior campaign was much better than sheets.

Johnson - 236/1423/6.0/17TD's rushing and 37/528/6TD's recieving
Sheets - 234/1131/4.8/16TD's rushing and 37/253/1TD recieving

Johnson also had 36 kick returns, for 1,009 yards and a touch, compared to sheets 14 returns for 259 yards. Thats ten yards less per return on average.

and you think this guy will beat out rossum for the return duties? come on.

Well then, there you go, he not only does have half the talent, hes just as good. No one, ever said anything about being better than Chris Jonson did they??

And no one ever said anything about beating out Rossum, but really just being another KR, you know there are two when they take the field.

just as good? you're out of your mind. 1,317 total yards less is not just as good. hell, i'll even throw out the kick return yardage, and say thats 567 yards from scrimmage less! sheets would have to play in 4-5 more games to get another 567 yards from scrimmage. he's not just as good, he's not even close.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Sorry to be a pain, but for the 50% of people saying Sheets what is the scenario in which he's actually on the gameday roster? Unless Coffee totally falls on his face Sheets' best case scenario with us is that he makes our practice squad.

I'm more intrigued by Boone because on top of having potential there's also a chance of a roster spot for him.

Sheets has experience as a KR too, if he can win that job, then he would probably get 3-5 carries a game to throw defenses off balance with his speed. Speculation of course.

you didnt say one of those jobs
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Kory Sheets - poor mans Chris Johnson, will definitely be that change of pace RB for the 49ers.

very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Why do you say that??

chris johnson ran a 4.24, this kid ran in the high 4.4's which makes him more like a very poor man's felix jones

I'm not even looking at their 40 times, but more as what they do as a RB. Both are good outside runners, both are patient and have that second gear once they come off their blocks. Only thing Johnson has to Sheets is, proven production in the NFL and elite speed. The styles are comparable, but when I said poor mans, I meant because of the lack of speed of Sheets.

and going undrafted compared to being a first round pick is what i was referring to as a very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Oh I get it you were being funny.

that and i dont think this kid has half the talent of chris johnson

Why, cause he doesn't run a 4.24 40?? Or cause he wasn't drafted in the 1st round?? Or because its just your simple opinion and have no other reason or reasons??

because i saw a few Purdue games, and he didnt stand out to me as anything special. becuase he's a terrible pass blocker. because he was the feature back for only one year, and topped 100 yards just three times in that year. because in 5 of his games last year he didnt even reach 4.0 YPC

Johnson was the same in college, only made a break through performance when he was a Senior, wasn't really a good pass-blocker, had some durability issues. And to say Sheets doesn't have half the talent as Johnson, when Sheets has 53 total TD's in his career to what Johnson had in his college career with only 43 total.

and johnson's senior campaign was much better than sheets.

Johnson - 236/1423/6.0/17TD's rushing and 37/528/6TD's recieving
Sheets - 234/1131/4.8/16TD's rushing and 37/253/1TD recieving

Johnson also had 36 kick returns, for 1,009 yards and a touch, compared to sheets 14 returns for 259 yards. Thats ten yards less per return on average.

and you think this guy will beat out rossum for the return duties? come on.

Well then, there you go, he not only does have half the talent, hes just as good. No one, ever said anything about being better than Chris Jonson did they??

And no one ever said anything about beating out Rossum, but really just being another KR, you know there are two when they take the field.

yes, most teams have two guys lined up deep to return kicks, but unless the other team directional kicks AWAY from the primary returner, he's the guy thats going to go and get it.
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Sheets and Boone are two guys i wouldnt have minded drafting, so i'll be rooting for them to do well

I didnt know we signed Diyral Briggs, he could also be a steal, found a nice article about him here, he will need to put on a few pounds though (6'4 230)

http://www.nfl-draft-site.com/2008/09/early-sack-leader-diyral-briggs-bowling.html
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Originally posted by kj11aw:
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Originally posted by kj11aw:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Kory Sheets - poor mans Chris Johnson, will definitely be that change of pace RB for the 49ers.

very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Why do you say that??

chris johnson ran a 4.24, this kid ran in the high 4.4's which makes him more like a very poor man's felix jones

I'm not even looking at their 40 times, but more as what they do as a RB. Both are good outside runners, both are patient and have that second gear once they come off their blocks. Only thing Johnson has to Sheets is, proven production in the NFL and elite speed. The styles are comparable, but when I said poor mans, I meant because of the lack of speed of Sheets.

and going undrafted compared to being a first round pick is what i was referring to as a very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Oh I get it you were being funny.

that and i dont think this kid has half the talent of chris johnson

Why, cause he doesn't run a 4.24 40?? Or cause he wasn't drafted in the 1st round?? Or because its just your simple opinion and have no other reason or reasons??

because i saw a few Purdue games, and he didnt stand out to me as anything special. becuase he's a terrible pass blocker. because he was the feature back for only one year, and topped 100 yards just three times in that year. because in 5 of his games last year he didnt even reach 4.0 YPC

Johnson was the same in college, only made a break through performance when he was a Senior, wasn't really a good pass-blocker, had some durability issues. And to say Sheets doesn't have half the talent as Johnson, when Sheets has 53 total TD's in his career to what Johnson had in his college career with only 43 total.

and johnson's senior campaign was much better than sheets.

Johnson - 236/1423/6.0/17TD's rushing and 37/528/6TD's recieving
Sheets - 234/1131/4.8/16TD's rushing and 37/253/1TD recieving

Johnson also had 36 kick returns, for 1,009 yards and a touch, compared to sheets 14 returns for 259 yards. Thats ten yards less per return on average.

and you think this guy will beat out rossum for the return duties? come on.

Well then, there you go, he not only does have half the talent, hes just as good. No one, ever said anything about being better than Chris Jonson did they??

And no one ever said anything about beating out Rossum, but really just being another KR, you know there are two when they take the field.

just as good? you're out of your mind. 1,317 total yards less is not just as good. hell, i'll even throw out the kick return yardage, and say thats 567 yards from scrimmage less! sheets would have to play in 4-5 more games to get another 567 yards from scrimmage. he's not just as good, he's not even close.

What are you talking about, excluding Special Teams play:

Sheets - Rushing and Receiving = 4,155

Johnson - Rushing and Receiving = 4,278

That's only a 123 yard difference. Like I said, hes not only half as good, hes just as better. Reason he wasn't drafted was maturity, arguing with his coaches about his role on the team, other than that, I don't see a reason why he wasn't drafted.

Besides I compared the two by their style of running and play on the field, not by their stats. But since you happen to throw in their stats, whatever.
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Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Sorry to be a pain, but for the 50% of people saying Sheets what is the scenario in which he's actually on the gameday roster? Unless Coffee totally falls on his face Sheets' best case scenario with us is that he makes our practice squad.

I'm more intrigued by Boone because on top of having potential there's also a chance of a roster spot for him.

Sheets has experience as a KR too, if he can win that job, then he would probably get 3-5 carries a game to throw defenses off balance with his speed. Speculation of course.

you didnt say one of those jobs

Why would I, everyone knows there's USUALLY two KR when they take the field. Now I feel your just nit picking at me....relax.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kory Sheets - poor mans Chris Johnson, will definitely be that change of pace RB for the 49ers.

very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Why do you say that??

chris johnson ran a 4.24, this kid ran in the high 4.4's which makes him more like a very poor man's felix jones

I'm not even looking at their 40 times, but more as what they do as a RB. Both are good outside runners, both are patient and have that second gear once they come off their blocks. Only thing Johnson has to Sheets is, proven production in the NFL and elite speed. The styles are comparable, but when I said poor mans, I meant because of the lack of speed of Sheets.

and going undrafted compared to being a first round pick is what i was referring to as a very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Oh I get it you were being funny.

that and i dont think this kid has half the talent of chris johnson

Why, cause he doesn't run a 4.24 40?? Or cause he wasn't drafted in the 1st round?? Or because its just your simple opinion and have no other reason or reasons??

because i saw a few Purdue games, and he didnt stand out to me as anything special. becuase he's a terrible pass blocker. because he was the feature back for only one year, and topped 100 yards just three times in that year. because in 5 of his games last year he didnt even reach 4.0 YPC

Johnson was the same in college, only made a break through performance when he was a Senior, wasn't really a good pass-blocker, had some durability issues. And to say Sheets doesn't have half the talent as Johnson, when Sheets has 53 total TD's in his career to what Johnson had in his college career with only 43 total.

and johnson's senior campaign was much better than sheets.

Johnson - 236/1423/6.0/17TD's rushing and 37/528/6TD's recieving
Sheets - 234/1131/4.8/16TD's rushing and 37/253/1TD recieving

Johnson also had 36 kick returns, for 1,009 yards and a touch, compared to sheets 14 returns for 259 yards. Thats ten yards less per return on average.

and you think this guy will beat out rossum for the return duties? come on.

Well then, there you go, he not only does have half the talent, hes just as good. No one, ever said anything about being better than Chris Jonson did they??

And no one ever said anything about beating out Rossum, but really just being another KR, you know there are two when they take the field.

just as good? you're out of your mind. 1,317 total yards less is not just as good. hell, i'll even throw out the kick return yardage, and say thats 567 yards from scrimmage less! sheets would have to play in 4-5 more games to get another 567 yards from scrimmage. he's not just as good, he's not even close.

What are you talking about, excluding Special Teams play:

Sheets - Rushing and Receiving = 4,155

Johnson - Rushing and Receiving = 4,278

That's only a 123 yard difference. Like I said, hes not only half as good, hes just as better. Reason he wasn't drafted was maturity, arguing with his coaches about his role on the team, other than that, I don't see a reason why he wasn't drafted.

Besides I compared the two by their style of running and play on the field, not by their stats. But since you happen to throw in their stats, whatever.

i was comparing the stats from their senior seasons when they were both the feature backs. sheets had 1,131 rushing yards and 253 receiving yards, thats 1,384 total, and johnson had 1,423 rushing 528 receiving, which is 1,951 total. sheets would have needed four or 5 more games to amass the same numbers this year. so no, he's not "just as better."
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Sorry to be a pain, but for the 50% of people saying Sheets what is the scenario in which he's actually on the gameday roster? Unless Coffee totally falls on his face Sheets' best case scenario with us is that he makes our practice squad.

I'm more intrigued by Boone because on top of having potential there's also a chance of a roster spot for him.

Sheets has experience as a KR too, if he can win that job, then he would probably get 3-5 carries a game to throw defenses off balance with his speed. Speculation of course.

you didnt say one of those jobs

Why would I, everyone knows there's USUALLY two KR when they take the field. Now I feel your just nit picking at me....relax.

i'm not at all. any team can throw two kick returners out on the field but everyone knows that there is one guy who is the primary return man. and the primary return man is going to go get the ball 9 times out of 10, and bring it back. who were our secondary kick return guys last year? walker and robinson? they had 19 returns compared to rossum's 47. rossum also missed 3 games, so i'm sure some of those 19 came from there.

robinson is our best special teams player, so his spot on the gameday roster is safe, and walker is either our second or third TE, so his gameday roster spot looks to be safe as well. i'm sorry but i just dont see this guy logging much playing time as a 4th RB with debateable kick return ability
Originally posted by Niners23:
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My vote goes to Kory Sheets because several zoners, including myself would have been happy to have him in the 4th-5th round as the back to compliment Gore. To get him as a UDFA is just sensational in my opinion.

I'd agree there.

It'd go Sheets, Boone, then Briggs/Long. All the rest are sort of lumped together in a tie.
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Sheets defines "change of pace", vis a vis Gore, better than Coffee does.
He'll have to show MUCH better than Coffe to get the chance though. They'll weight the scales heavily in favor of a third round pick versus an UDFA. I hope that he makes it. He could be an exciting home run threat. Something we haven't had for a loooong time.

Boone is a REAL long shot. he's afflicted with a disease that's felled many a good man. Hopefully he can learn to control it. But it is encoded in his genes and it's no easy matter getting a handle on it. Best of luck to him!
Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kory Sheets - poor mans Chris Johnson, will definitely be that change of pace RB for the 49ers.

very poor, homeless, and meth addict mans chris johnson....maybe

Why do you say that??

chris johnson ran a 4.24, this kid ran in the high 4.4's which makes him more like a very poor man's felix jones

I read that sheets ran an unofficial 4.39

http://www.sacbee.com/sf49ers/story/1815212.html?mi_rss=49ers
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Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Sorry to be a pain, but for the 50% of people saying Sheets what is the scenario in which he's actually on the gameday roster? Unless Coffee totally falls on his face Sheets' best case scenario with us is that he makes our practice squad.

I'm more intrigued by Boone because on top of having potential there's also a chance of a roster spot for him.

Sheets has experience as a KR too, if he can win that job, then he would probably get 3-5 carries a game to throw defenses off balance with his speed. Speculation of course.

you didnt say one of those jobs

Why would I, everyone knows there's USUALLY two KR when they take the field. Now I feel your just nit picking at me....relax.

i'm not at all. any team can throw two kick returners out on the field but everyone knows that there is one guy who is the primary return man. and the primary return man is going to go get the ball 9 times out of 10, and bring it back. who were our secondary kick return guys last year? walker and robinson? they had 19 returns compared to rossum's 47. rossum also missed 3 games, so i'm sure some of those 19 came from there.

robinson is our best special teams player, so his spot on the gameday roster is safe, and walker is either our second or third TE, so his gameday roster spot looks to be safe as well. i'm sorry but i just dont see this guy logging much playing time as a 4th RB with debateable kick return ability

Dont forget that Robinson would also be our back up FB if Norris goes down. It's safe to say that Gore, Coffee, Robinson, and Norris will be the suited every week and Sheets will take Clayton's role until he can take more of Robinson's roles.
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Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by kj11aw:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Sorry to be a pain, but for the 50% of people saying Sheets what is the scenario in which he's actually on the gameday roster? Unless Coffee totally falls on his face Sheets' best case scenario with us is that he makes our practice squad.

I'm more intrigued by Boone because on top of having potential there's also a chance of a roster spot for him.

Sheets has experience as a KR too, if he can win that job, then he would probably get 3-5 carries a game to throw defenses off balance with his speed. Speculation of course.

you didnt say one of those jobs

Why would I, everyone knows there's USUALLY two KR when they take the field. Now I feel your just nit picking at me....relax.

i'm not at all. any team can throw two kick returners out on the field but everyone knows that there is one guy who is the primary return man. and the primary return man is going to go get the ball 9 times out of 10, and bring it back. who were our secondary kick return guys last year? walker and robinson? they had 19 returns compared to rossum's 47. rossum also missed 3 games, so i'm sure some of those 19 came from there.

robinson is our best special teams player, so his spot on the gameday roster is safe, and walker is either our second or third TE, so his gameday roster spot looks to be safe as well. i'm sorry but i just dont see this guy logging much playing time as a 4th RB with debateable kick return ability

Dont forget that Robinson would also be our back up FB if Norris goes down. It's safe to say that Gore, Coffee, Robinson, and Norris will be the suited every week and Sheets will take Clayton's role until he can take more of Robinson's roles.

If Sheets beats Clayton out of a job, there is no reason to think he won't be on the active roster. Last year we kept 4 backs on the active roster: Gore, Foster, Robinson, and Keasey. We only kept four because Martz wanted six WRs. Now, our offense is more run oriented. They will keep 5 backs on the active roster most weeks, especially if Sheets proves he can play spaecial teams. He won't be returning kicks, but he needs to learn how to play coverage.