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Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

To be fair MD, your big board had the following RBs slated for the 2nd to mid rounds:

52 Andre Brown NC State RB
- Brown went 129 overall. Almost 80 spot difference

57 Rashad Jennings Liberty RB
- Jennings went 250 overall. Almost 200 spot difference

69 Javon Ringer Michigan State RB
- Ringer went 173 overall. Almost 100 spot difference

91 LeSean McCoy Pitt RB
- McCoy went 53 overall. Undervalued by almost 40 spots.

While you still may hold your belief about Coffee, all 32 NFL teams passed up your ranked RBs by 2-5 rounds.

This is where personal interviews and scouting-quality game film comes into play. If Coffee went that much higher than you originally ranked, then maybe there's something about the kid's game that the 49ers, and potentially other teams, liked over the others named in that list.
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

To be fair MD, your big board had the following RBs slated for the 2nd to mid rounds:

52 Andre Brown NC State RB
- Brown went 129 overall. Almost 80 spot difference

57 Rashad Jennings Liberty RB
- Jennings went 250 overall. Almost 200 spot difference

69 Javon Ringer Michigan State RB
- Ringer went 173 overall. Almost 100 spot difference

91 LeSean McCoy Pitt RB
- McCoy went 53 overall. Undervalued by almost 40 spots.

While you still may hold your belief about Coffee, all 32 NFL teams passed up your ranked RBs by 2-5 rounds.

This is where personal interviews and scouting-quality game film comes into play. If Coffee went that much higher than you originally ranked, then maybe there's something about the kid's game that the 49ers, and potentially other teams, liked over the others named in that list.

This was not a ranking, but where I felt the player would be selected. I believe almost every draft prognosticator was shocked by the dramatic fall of Jennings, Brown and even Ringer after exceptional off-season workouts. So, I was not alone is being far off on these players in my draft projection.

Now, as for Coffee, I should have placed him higher on my board, but as stated before, I believed his involvement in the textbook scandal at Alabama would drop his final draft value to a 5th rounder.

As stated before, my disappointment in the Coffee selection was based upon the idea that the Niners would use their third rounder on a guy who will probably only assume the role as a situational backup. Situational backups should be selected later in the draft, not early. The Niners still need a lot more help with guys who could be potentially starters in short amount of time. The clock is seriously ticking on W. Harris, Baas will be a free agent next year, we have a guy with a bad back as our starting RT, and a NT who will be a free agent at the end of this season.

With all of these needs, to me, selecting a backup running back early in the draft is a bad strategy.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

Yes we will and I appreciate the comments. At first, I was disappointed in the Coffee pick too and like you, I was hoping for players who could definitely contribute this coming season and perhaps start in year 2. Now I frankly don't know what to think.
Something tells me the Niners might be more worried about Gore's ability to stay healthy than they let on. Coffee certainly got good reviews from his work in the mini camp (no pads though so doesn't mean much).
I agree with you though, that his running style is not suited to success in the NFL unless success is defined on injured reserve. He better put on that extra 10 lbs. or else I can see that straight up style being a hurt on him.

I do think Davis has a chance to make it if he can digest the play book because he throws the ball so well.....he has both touch and an ability to throw the deep ball which is something that neither Hill nor Smith has. He also has a real competitive fire which I think can't be measured..... Jeff Garcia has that same fire. Your points are certainly well taken and I think the Niners rolled the dice when they took him but I just think that this guy has a decent chance of making the roster at least as a backup. From there...who knows?

BTW, do you see Cody Wallace making the team this year?
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Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

Yes we will and I appreciate the comments. At first, I was disappointed in the Coffee pick too and like you, I was hoping for players who could definitely contribute this coming season and perhaps start in year 2. Now I frankly don't know what to think.
Something tells me the Niners might be more worried about Gore's ability to stay healthy than they let on. Coffee certainly got good reviews from his work in the mini camp (no pads though so doesn't mean much).
I agree with you though, that his running style is not suited to success in the NFL unless success is defined on injured reserve. He better put on that extra 10 lbs. or else I can see that straight up style being a hurt on him.

I do think Davis has a chance to make it if he can digest the play book because he throws the ball so well.....he has both touch and an ability to throw the deep ball which is something that neither Hill nor Smith has. He also has a real competitive fire which I think can't be measured..... Jeff Garcia has that same fire. Your points are certainly well taken and I think the Niners rolled the dice when they took him but I just think that this guy has a decent chance of making the roster at least as a backup. From there...who knows?

BTW, do you see Cody Wallace making the team this year?

I think it has more to do with the fact that Singletary wants to run 35 times a game and no RB can take that kind of pounding every week. Especially Gore who has had two knee surgeries and shoulder surgeries. Not to mention, Gore is a big part of the passing game too...so giving him more than 20-22 carries every week might be too much. So, Coffee maybe a back-up on the depth chart - but if he is getting 10-12 carries a game, he will make a pretty big impact for us this season.
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

Yes we will and I appreciate the comments. At first, I was disappointed in the Coffee pick too and like you, I was hoping for players who could definitely contribute this coming season and perhaps start in year 2. Now I frankly don't know what to think.
Something tells me the Niners might be more worried about Gore's ability to stay healthy than they let on. Coffee certainly got good reviews from his work in the mini camp (no pads though so doesn't mean much).
I agree with you though, that his running style is not suited to success in the NFL unless success is defined on injured reserve. He better put on that extra 10 lbs. or else I can see that straight up style being a hurt on him.

I do think Davis has a chance to make it if he can digest the play book because he throws the ball so well.....he has both touch and an ability to throw the deep ball which is something that neither Hill nor Smith has. He also has a real competitive fire which I think can't be measured..... Jeff Garcia has that same fire. Your points are certainly well taken and I think the Niners rolled the dice when they took him but I just think that this guy has a decent chance of making the roster at least as a backup. From there...who knows?

BTW, do you see Cody Wallace making the team this year?

I think Cody will make the team, but he is certainly no lock. The Niners just extended Wragge for a number of extra years, and added M. Smith to the team. Since teams generally keep only 9 OL, that leaves 4 reserves. Two of these reserves will certainly be: Adam Snyder and Tony Wragge. Cody would be the odds on favorite to be the final reserve interior linemen, but he better show up in 2009.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

I still can't wrap my fingers around picking Wallace. But do you really see McKillop as a stud? Maybe i'm undervaluing him a bit.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

I still can't wrap my fingers around picking Wallace. But do you really see McKillop as a stud? Maybe i'm undervaluing him a bit.

I see McKillop as a stud. He's just one of those blue collar guys who work their rear off and make a lot of plays. This is the perfect place to draft a Ted backer, somewhere in the 5th-6th round. Good value pick, and a guy who I expect to play alongside Willis for some time.

Wallace was insurance for Heitmann, as he was returning from injury. Now that Heitmann had a terrific 2009 season, and Wallace did not show much promise, the pick looks wasted at this point. Especially when we see players such as John Sullivan, who will start for Minnesota at center this season, and Donald Thomas, who will start at guard for Miami this season (he was going to be the starter in 2008 before his injury). There were just too many better interior linemen on the board when the Niners selected Wallace. The kid from Buffalo, Jamey Richard, also looked sharp for Indianapolis last season.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Curious MD.... I know you didn't like the Davis pick at 171. Who would you have drafted at that spot? Do you like the Niners last 3 picks? I felt the team did a nice job with their UDFAs.....any that you are particularly high on? Thanks, man.

I am very high on Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner, who was selected only a few picks after Davis by Miami.

Gardner was a two time All-ACC First Teamer, a starter for four years, and he will be versatile enough to play both left and right tackle. His best home is probably suited for RT in the NFL. He's a big guy at 6'7", and has room to stack on weight.

Gardner's stock fell at the end of this season due to a torn labrum, but he's looking to come back very soon. He projected to be a 3rd-4th rounder before the injury.

Thanks MD..... I take it that the Niners overall draft and UDFA signings didn't really impress you much.

In actuality, I am pleased overall with the Niners' draft and free agent class. The Niners stole Crabtree at 10, picked up a 1st rounder in 2010 (which will probably be a mid-first rounder), grabbed a stud ILB in McKillop, a solid blocking TE in Bear, and a group of free agents that actually have a shot to make the squad either in 2009 or 2010 (Boone, Sheets, Long).

The only disappointing picks to me were Coffee in the third round (we should have attempted to find a starter with the 74th overall), and Davis in the 5th, who I see having colossal problems in the NFL.

I am generally correct in pointing out the guys who will struggle at the next level. Two years ago, it was Joe Cohen, and last year it was Cody Wallace. I believe Davis will be the guy who struggles in this 2009 class. We'll soon see.

I still can't wrap my fingers around picking Wallace. But do you really see McKillop as a stud? Maybe i'm undervaluing him a bit.

I see McKillop as a stud. He's just one of those blue collar guys who work their rear off and make a lot of plays. This is the perfect place to draft a Ted backer, somewhere in the 5th-6th round. Good value pick, and a guy who I expect to play alongside Willis for some time.

Wallace was insurance for Heitmann, as he was returning from injury. Now that Heitmann had a terrific 2009 season, and Wallace did not show much promise, the pick looks wasted at this point. Especially when we see players such as John Sullivan, who will start for Minnesota at center this season, and Donald Thomas, who will start at guard for Miami this season (he was going to be the starter in 2008 before his injury). There were just too many better interior linemen on the board when the Niners selected Wallace. The kid from Buffalo, Jamey Richard, also looked sharp for Indianapolis last season.

Your comments really made me feel better, MD....because they confirm to me the fact that I'm not crazy. Really glad you like McKillop. I didn't know much about him but he seems like a nice addition. Again, I'm in total agreement that this team still needs starters at several positions (especially in the secondary).
I'm not convinced that any of the OLmen they have is really a stud....or just a pretender. After back to back 55 sack seasons, I feel this team needed to address that line at all costs. If M Smith is healthy, good. If not, chalk up another 40+ sack season. We'll see if they have enough. I didn't like the Wallace pick from last year at all for many of the reasons that you mentioned. Total reach. Probably could have gotten him as a FA. To me, that reeks of a Nolan pick. Let's hope N Davis is not one of those players who you were right about. The team needs him to show something.
You got two on the money and were close with Mckillop. That is fine work. I don't think Mckillop will be that great but that is my opinion. Crabtree and Pascoe look solid. What do you think of Francois? I heard he is pretty good.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
You got two on the money and were close with Mckillop. That is fine work. I don't think Mckillop will be that great but that is my opinion. Crabtree and Pascoe look solid. What do you think of Francois? I heard he is pretty good.

He's probably no better than a 50-50 to make the roster, right now, and if McDonald is healthy, his chances drop to about 10%. It comes down to a numbers game in the end (will the Niners keep 7 DL or only 6?), and Jean-Francois has to hope that Ray is not ready to go anytime soon. We are collecting bodies along the DL with Smith, Franklin, Soap, Balmer, Evans, and McDonald. I expect the Niners to only keep 6 DL, so Jean-Francois would be the odd man out.

Look out for Stanford FA Pannel Egboh, who has better long range size (almost 3 inches taller), and was more consistent in 2009. He might even beat out Jean-Francois.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
You got two on the money and were close with Mckillop. That is fine work. I don't think Mckillop will be that great but that is my opinion. Crabtree and Pascoe look solid. What do you think of Francois? I heard he is pretty good.

He's probably no better than a 50-50 to make the roster, right now, and if McDonald is healthy, his chances drop to about 10%. It comes down to a numbers game in the end (will the Niners keep 7 DL or only 6?), and Jean-Francois has to hope that Ray is not ready to go anytime soon. We are collecting bodies along the DL with Smith, Franklin, Soap, Balmer, Evans, and McDonald. I expect the Niners to only keep 6 DL, so Jean-Francois would be the odd man out.

Look out for Stanford FA Pannel Egboh, who has better long range size (almost 3 inches taller), and was more consistent in 2009. He might even beat out Jean-Francois.

Egboh looks like a solid man. I hope we keep him or Francois and maybe let McDonald go. He has shown some signs but he has had so many knee problems. Didn't he have knee problems coming out Florida, which is why he fell so far?
Also, is Crabtree's foot the reason why he fell to us at #10, and why you had him at #10?
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
You got two on the money and were close with Mckillop. That is fine work. I don't think Mckillop will be that great but that is my opinion. Crabtree and Pascoe look solid. What do you think of Francois? I heard he is pretty good.

He's probably no better than a 50-50 to make the roster, right now, and if McDonald is healthy, his chances drop to about 10%. It comes down to a numbers game in the end (will the Niners keep 7 DL or only 6?), and Jean-Francois has to hope that Ray is not ready to go anytime soon. We are collecting bodies along the DL with Smith, Franklin, Soap, Balmer, Evans, and McDonald. I expect the Niners to only keep 6 DL, so Jean-Francois would be the odd man out.

Look out for Stanford FA Pannel Egboh, who has better long range size (almost 3 inches taller), and was more consistent in 2009. He might even beat out Jean-Francois.

Egboh looks like a solid man. I hope we keep him or Francois and maybe let McDonald go. He has shown some signs but he has had so many knee problems. Didn't he have knee problems coming out Florida, which is why he fell so far?
Also, is Crabtree's foot the reason why he fell to us at #10, and why you had him at #10?

McDonald had problems with both knees coming out of Florida. I thought the Niners selection of McDonald was not a wise investment, since I believed he would only play a maximum of five years in the league. He may not even make it that far.

While I wouldn't count him out in 2009, I tend to doubt he will recover enough to play this season. We'll soon see.
can't let this thread die
Bump to prove to someone that I did not lie about Crabtree going at number 10.

Cheers.